As Thom has pointed out many times....if we lose the executive branch we lose the Judicial branch too, but we lose the Supreme Court for decades. Appointees for 30, 40, 50 years!!!! Vote third party at your own peril.

Obama knows the bill would open up a "can of drones" so to speak. The United States would be bombarded, excuse the pun, with lawsuits related to drone strikes and the collateral killing of innocent people.

Well, Pokerzion (Jewish card shark? ;-D, as I see it, we (the people) desperately need a third party. You can't slide a thin dime between the two major political parties any more because both of them are trying to outdo each other to please their corporate masters. Sanders had the message right, but failed to deliver in the end because (IHMO) he didn't want to go down in history as the next Ralph Nader. But in fact, he would have perfermed a far greater service had he linked up with Jill Stein. True, that might have split the progressive vote. True, it might have resulted in a Trump victory, and a calamitous decade, or worse. But what if that third party bid had come close? Next time around we might have a real choice, not the "lesser of two wevils". Until we get past this binary mindset, we might as well give up. And speaking of that, the notion that people are neatly divided into "liberals and conservatives" must end. For example, I'm an independent with progressive leanings but also a gun enthusiast, a concept that blows the mind of my liberal friends. We need, collectively, to start seeing things in shades of grey and start engaging in critical thinking.

So what's your solution?

Yeah... I'm going to send this out to a few places, but somehow we need to reach these people. Here's my attempt, and please anyone send any feedback they have. Thanks.

This letter is to you, my conservative friend!

I’m a liberal. I always have been, and always will be from all accounts. If you’re a conservative reading this article right now, I’m told that there’s no way you’ll listen or hear what I have to say, and that we’re so polarized as a nation right now that it’s pretty much a waste of time. I know that’s total and utter bullshit.

You’re my neighbor. Quite literally you are. I live in Orange County, CA. It’s an extremely conservative pocket of an otherwise very progressive state. I’m married and have two children, and I often talk to you on the soccer or baseball field and we share a few laughs and screams as our kids enjoy some fun and friendly competition on the weekends. We pass each other as we’re leaving our houses and say hi, and occasionally run into each other on a walk and exchange some pleasentries. That’s the America I live in and love. And because I do love it so much, I’m not going to allow the forces in action to tear us apart and pit ourselves against each other. That is total and utter bullshit.

We have poll after poll that prove that you and I have very similar concerns, fears, and values. We’re going to disagree on some things, and that’s what makes us human, unique and ultimately beautiful. Those differences are a good thing. So when and why did we stop listening to each other, valuing our differences, and appreciating them? I have a theory, and I think if you read it, in the end, you’ll agree with me. But if you don’t agree with me, I won’t call you names. I might laugh at you silently, but never to your face. I’m not rude after all. J I will in the end respect your opinion and you, and that’s where we need to be as a country if we really want the country we all deserve and should have.

I want to first say, that as a representative of the liberal party, I’m going to go out on a limb and speak for a majority of them on a couple of things I think you’ve been told by our corporate media are true about our goals as a group and party, that are extremely far from the truth. To begin with:

1. I don’t want your gun. Heck, I don’t even really know how to use one, and don’t really see the need. But clearly you do, and that’s fine. I just want some basic safety rules about using guns and purchasing them that I’m pretty confident you’d agree with. I want to limit their access by people with violent and criminal behavior, and terrorist.
2. I don’t want your bible. One of my favorite parts of the American experiment is the freedom of religion. The freedom to see the world how you want to, and to have a relationship with any GOD you feel brings you closer to understanding your world, yourself, and your neighbor. I’m completely down with that. All I want is to protect us from repeating history by trying to blur too many lines between church and state. It’s the primary reason we left England and formed this beautiful country to begin with. The founders understood that this separation HAD to be diligently protected and respected, or we would just repeat history. Let’s honor their goal and not repeat history.
3. I don’t want to support lazy people. I work hard for my money. You have to now a days. The economy has been so tilted in the favor of the wealthy elite, that we’re all forced to work much harder for our vacation time, our incomes, our retirement, and our rights as workers. I’ve yet to meet any liberal on any protest march or through casual conversation that has said to me that they think we should just give away our money. Instead we look at social programs as more cost effective methods to societal problems. Everyone has a lazy Joe or two in their family. No matter what you do to help them, they just aren’t going to get off their butt and do their fair share. Society is like your extended family, and unfortunately there’s some Joe’s out there. By and large though, people want to participate and feel good that they are making a contribution to their families and society. I’m more than open to any discussion about how to make social safety nets more robust and take up less of our hard earned money, but so far, I personally haven’t heard a better argument. We know what the outcome is if we cut these nets. It isn’t going to make people work harder, it’s going to make them steal, rob, and cause even bigger issues in our neighborhoods than already exist. Like I said, I’m open to any discussion, and I think most progressives are as well, but we already know the result of not having any social safety nets (think pre 1930’s).

I could list even more positions I think we’d be on the same page about, that the media has tried to convince both of us that we’re on opposing sides, but I think this is the core of the major misunderstanding that’s happening right now in our country. Because of the immense wealth concentration we’ve had in the last 35+ years in this country, the wealthy elite have a strangle hold on the political direction and views of this country. If we don’t stop, get absolutely raw honest with one another, you’re going to have even more extreme Donald Trump’s representing your party. And I’ve spoken to enough of you to know that most of you are embarrassed by your candidate. I’m here to say that the change we need to correct these issues literally lies in your hands. You’re going to need to entertain the possibility, that maybe, you haven’t been as informed or correct in your positions in supporting what has now become the new Republican party. This is not the same party I understood and knew growing up, and I’m confident you know that at some level.

So let’s put all of the bullshit aside, and I want you to just entertain this one idea for a moment. Because this one idea, and shift in our collective understanding of it, will in my opinion, re-shape the financial future of this country. Do shoe manufacturers create new jobs by getting more money from tax breaks, and thus they create more jobs because of this additional money they have from not paying as much in taxes? A company hires and creates just enough jobs in order to make the absolute most profits for themselves, and if they are publicly traded, for their investors. If they just hired more people from this extra new revenue they have now, they’d make less money for themselves and their stock holders. That goes against business 101. The answer is, no. Of course they wouldn’t. Would this extra money allow for them to create some kind of innovations in their industry that could create more jobs? If anything, a lot of the innovation would be in automation, which would eliminate jobs. There’s no real sound reason that someone could point to that will explain how this money would create new jobs. That’s why it was famously called, “Voodoo Economics” By Bush Sr. back in the 80’s, and why supply side economics has never worked anywhere, ever. It hasn’t worked in this country, and it never will.

Now, if I instead give those take breaks to average family’s that spend near 100% of their income, can this create new jobs? Yes, of course it does. And why does it? Because it’s the first thing you learn if you’ve ever taken an economics 101 class. Demand creates supply. It does not work the other way around, and anyone telling you otherwise is quite literally conning you. People have the money to purchase goods and services, and that creates demand, which in turn creates jobs. It really literally is that simple.

I could go on and on about how and why this con got started, but I want you to at least entertain this idea and reasoning for a bit. Then take a look at Donald Trump’s Tax Plan. You can find it on his website here. Just spend the 5-10 minutes reading it. You’ve already spent time reading this article to this point, might as well go big and go all the way. Compare it to Hillary Clinton’s tax plan considering what you just read. You can find it here. If you think Donald Trump’s tax plan is going to create jobs and help this country reduce its debt and service its needs, please re-read the last couple of paragraphs. Think about it some more. Ask questions to people you respect, but most importantly, don’t take Donald’s word that what he is saying is true. Because I’m here to tell you as your neighbor and someone who cares deeply about the future my kids will have in this great country, that’s it’s just simply not true. It is the same recycled plans that got us into deep recessions, because this makes the people at the top very very rich when these bubbles burst and they can buy up land and property cheaply (among other things).

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on… all of us. Let’s entertain the idea that a lot of us might have been wrong, and change our path. I trust you will do the right thing.

Vote the 2016 Party Platforms. Google them and compare. Then vote for the Party not the candidates.

She Busted His Chops

{… a limerick …}

Trump lied, he bragged and he blustered, -

- but Hillary wasn’t flustered

as she countered his punch

and ate his lunch.

Boy, how his chops she {busted} bustered.

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HRC lost the debate, Thom. She looked like Bambi's mom caught in the headlights.

It's too bad the Tea Party isn't a third party, that would even up the score a bit ....but then again the Teapublic Party became what it is because the billionaires purchased Teabagger numb nuts and had them infiltrate the Republicon Party. The Fascists are too slick to allow third party fragmentation.

Why we democratic socialists can't infiltrate the Democratic Party remains a mystery to me??? The progressive caucus is alive and well, so where there's smoke there certainly can be fire.

Why would a Bernie supporter turn around and vote for Johnson, a polar opposite???? It makes totally no sense. I hope Bernie makes a statement to his young supporters exposing Johnson for what he truly is.

The quality of the person in the presidency far outweighs any left or right agenda they have in mind.

Hillary is morally and physically flawed to the point she should not be president.

Remember most presidents get very little of what they want in this gridlocked system.

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Sure, it's easy to blame NBC, CBS, ABC, et al., but it's really the parent's fault.

Jill Stein and the Green Party...

"...will be using the open internet and social media to go around the corporate media to broadcast our voices.

We have decided to heed the words of Jello Biafra-- “Don’t hate the corporate media, become the media!” And we will do that outside the doors of Hofstra University tonight.

Deeper still, during the debate itself we will literally insert ourselves into the debate using Twitter/Periscope and Facebook Live.

We aim to have millions of people watching, listening and reading Jill actually participate live during the debate.

The Green Party will not
be kept from participating

in the Presidential Debates
tonight, September 26!