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I agree that Trump is unique. Zuckerberg or Bloomberg would be different. Zuckerberg has been reasonably honest. The best but too old is Buffet. Gates would be reasonable.
I hope that none of the donors who donated to the GOP wishing to repeal Obamacare sue the RNC or the GOP on RICO grounds for not giving capital gains tax cuts oops i mean for not repealing Obamacare.
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Maybe there is a misunderstanding but I am reading that the father of these billionaires predominantly gained their wealth and profit from a Stalinist Soviet Union by building refineries in a Stalinist Soviet Union. These are true American Heroes by any account. Standing up for American values at every turn. I must say. Bravo!
By building refineries in Stalins Soviet Union you say?
What if citizens were made aware of governments worldwide that create the happiest people on the planet. You could start with Denmark and list the social and economic benefits associated with that system.
Here in the United States trillions of dollars are diverted to the giant Fascist profit machine engaged in perpetual warfare. Countries like Denmark instead use their tax dollars for things like cradle to grave healthcare, and education.
Getting the truth out to the voting populous is the biggest problem Democracy faces. The above comment about the "Fourth Estate" is right on target and a free society cannot exist without it. Confusing gullible citizens with garbage like Foxaganda is no accident. It's a fascist weapon. It's how the extremely wealthy suppress the truth and control the message.
BTW: Can anyone explain to me why Kobach hasn't been arrested for election fraud? Why can't we demand swing/red state lists of votes that didn't get counted as a result of Kobach's crosscheck fraud. All those who had their vote disallowed should be notified so they can file suit against Kobach.
If Trump's Fascists can demand voter data, why can't we do the same?
I completely agree about money/oligarchs problem but Mark Zuckerberg is not even vaguely Donald Trump. Bad analogy
Haha ...drinkin', gamblin', and fightin' kinda go together, don't they?
If 18-year-olds don't know their civic lessons, that's a failure of our public education system, which Republicans are hellbent on further defunding. Hell, for that matter, most right-wing Republican politicians can't even name the basic principles of our Constitution and would probably fail the most rudimentary civil service exam. In fact, Trump is the biggest clueless dummy of all. An 18-year-old high on pot could do a better job.
It's a curious thing why so many Republicans are scared that too many people might vote, especially those with the wrong color of skin or ethnic background or, in this case, those young adults who are victims of a poorly funded education system.
They lowered the drinking age to 18 in many states back in the 70's but the Federal Government made them raise it back to 21 or lose fed highway funding. I agree that it should be 18. The USA is fanatical on the 21 thing to the point that they ruin a lot of lives with arrests. I am 67 and still get ID'ed. They bust some kid that is 20, but looks 30, for something stupid. Then offer to reduce his penalty if he (or she) goes to stores and restaurants and purchases liquor. Then they bust the store for huge penalties. It is a money making scheme. So the stores make it mandatory to check all ID's as they will lose their license if busted again or the fine will be even higher. I have worked in 9 countries for extensive periods of time and traveled in 32. I have never seen someone ID'ed in another country. I have a friend that has also traveled extensively and agrees. The USA is definitely overboard on this subject. As far as gambling goes I am personally against gambling and do none myself. You (despite what millions say) are guaranteed to be on the losing end in the long run. If you want to lose your money I do not care what age. As far as 18 year olds not knowing politics, in the USA it is a failure to teach Civics in High School. Lots of 18 year olds know more then adult Trump voters.
If you are old enough to die for your country you should be old and responsible enough to have a beer in a bar or sit at a slot machine. Drinking and gambling age where I live is 18 the same age you have to be to join the military. Most 18 year olds today could not name the political parties, you really want them voting. Especially when they are forced to. I think the age for military, gambling, drinking and I guess now pot should be the same. What ever age 18 or 21.
Legend. Right on!
Kend. We are forced to obey all kinds of laws in a so-called free country. We are forced to pay taxes. We are forced to attend school up to a certain age. We are forced to buy liability car insurance. We are forced to perform jury duty. We are forced into the military when the draft is activated. We are forced to feed, clothe, and shelter our children. We are forced not to lie to authorities conducting investigations. We are forced to tell the truth in court. We are forced to comply with inspections at airports. We are forced into marital status for legal purposes after cohabitating for a length of time. We are forced to pay our bills. We are forced to abide by the terms of any contract we sign. We are forced to have a passport when traveling. We are forced to extinguish campfires during a high-alert fire season. We are forced to report accidents and lend aid to the injured. We are forced to use civil language on public airwaves. We are forced to smoke in public in designated areas only. We are forced to comply with subdivision covenants. We are forced to obey traffic signs. We are forced not to pollute the environment, not to poison food, not to murder, not to steal, not to commit fraud, not to cause harm or injury, etc., etc., etc.
We are forced to do and not to do many things we may not like or agree with as a condition for the privilege of living in a civilized society. Nothing is free without conditions and responsibilities. Now, again, why exactly should voting in a democracy not be one of those conditions and responsibilities, especially since that is our most important act as a citizen to maintain a true representative democratic republic, a form of government for which the common people must constantly fight to keep?
The second part of your argument indicates a serious lack of understanding of the full history of American government right after the War for Independence was won. Strong state governments and a weak central government proved unworkable and nearly led to the death of our fledgling democracy at its birth. Individual states were too susceptible to corruption by monied interests and were on the verge of fracturing, in effect, into separate countries. The Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia in 1787 was called in an urgent bid to find the right balance between regional powers and a central unifying power. It was held in secret; not invited were the representatives of concentrated wealth and its corrosive influence.
if we survived 12 years of those goddamn miserable crooked bushes, this too can pass. the bar was already lowered and the door kicked in for "the donald" courtesy of the so "sopreme quart" and it's "courageous" decision in bush v. gore..December 12, 2000. another day that will live in infamy!!!
Our voting age was lowered to 18 during the Vietnam War. It was decided that If you were old enough to die for your country you were old enough to vote.
Deepspace. I do agree with some of your points but in a free country you should not me forced to do anything. Voting age should be at 21. If our government doesn't believe your old enough to drink or gamble you certainly are not old enough to vote. Voter ID should be required. Many of the things you want could be easily be fixed by decentralization of the government. Give more power and the majority of the tax income to the states that way states like Montana wouldn't have as much of a say on what goes on in California. The Fed would go back to only doing national things like national defensive and leave healthcare and education etc up to the states where it belongs.
An ideal constitution for our day and age should include strict guidelines to keep the beating heart of democracy beating -- voter participation:
Essentials requirements would seem to be, but not limited to: voting codified into law as both a right and a duty; Election Day designated as a national holiday that employers must honor; Popular vote wins, period; Districts drawn objectively and fairly by bipartisan committees; Publicly financed elections with no special interest money in politics whatsoever at any level or stage in the electoral process; Free and equal media airtime for qualified candidates; One-time, national, automatic registration upon gaining citizenship, either at birth or through the legal naturalization process, that would suffice for identification at any precinct in any state for any election; Responsiblity rests upon the states, not individual citizens, to fund and issue any other forms of ID or voting processes, such as proof of precinct residency, that legislatures may require, while ensuring a voter's right to cast a ballot and have it counted is never compromised; Mandatory voting as a civic duty starting at age 18; Paper ballot elections independently monitored, verified, and carefully compared to exit polling; Stiff penalties, including prison time or decertification, for any individual or organization -- especially a public office holder or political body -- guilty of suppressing votes or otherwise subverting the process.
#Edward Dodson: You have just set up a perfect scenario for the New World Order to take over with no opposition. If you don't think that big money would still operate in this scenario, then you are very eutopian. We need to take our current system and vermin proof it, like (1) overturn Citizens United, (2) get rid of political appointments to the SCOTUS and make all bench seats subject to elections, or implement the German system, (3) get rid of Amendment #16, (4) end the revolving door between the Congress and private industry; ban all lobbyists from DC, (5) get rid of the electoral college and especially the Super Delegates, and (6) reaffirm the Fourth Estate and its protection. A few tweaks like this and things would be a lot better.
By the time we get to the 2020 elections, if this country still hasn't learned what its all about and the lessons to be learned, and puts Zuckerberg into office, then America deserves to get raped again. I'm amazed there hasn't been a stampede for the Green Party, but hey, there's no fixing stupid.
As President Jimmy Carter said "We have an oligarchy." I believe we have to work with all our might to restore our republic. Trump is the result of our failure to hold on to our government.
Thom I would love to see you get involved with Bernies movement. I honestly believe you have what it takes to light a fire in his campaign. I certainly miss your evening show on Sirius. As well as all the conversations you use to have with Bernie. 2018 is so critical to the dems, without winning the house in 18 however will we be able to get rid of Trump via impeachment. This mess in Washington absolutely has to be put to rest.
It should be clear to any thinking person that the political system we have inherited no longer (if it ever did) serves the interest of the public. The electoral college structure gives to states with small popultions far more power to select the President than is consistent with democracy. Never discussed is that fact that beyond the first 13 states, the rest of the states of the nation were formed out of the public domain, out of territory that was under federal control. The very institution of the U.S. Senate is neither democratic nor central to checks and balances. Why should Montana or other sparsely-populated parts of North America have the same number of votes as California or New York? Why, in fact, do we need fifty separate states? The boundaries of the states are totally arbitrary and make little sense from the standpoint of management of natural resources and the environment.
People no longer have any significant personal knowledge of or contact with people elected to the state or federal legislatures. Why not do away with elections altogether and select citizens for the legislature by lottery. Those willing to serve would be required to pass a civil service examination and a criminal background check. Their name would then go into the lottery. If chosen, the citizen serves for one 4-year term, after which he or she returns to private life. No campaigns. No fund-raising. No one beholden to special interests.
How then to select a Governor or a President? Why not provide public funding for a non-party process. Anyone who wants to run for the Presidency would declare, going on the ballot if he or she was able to get a minimum number of signitures on a voter petition. (say, 10,000). A candidate would be elected President if he or she received a majority vote of registered voters.
Post 13. By building refineries in Stalins Soviet Union.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_C._Koch
Needs to be a massive PR campaign, to expose this to the general public. If not, we could be doomed, as a democracy.
What County did the father of these billionaires predominantly gain wealth and profit from, if at all?
After failing on healthcare we need to help them fail on this one.