I agree with you, under todays health care system there is a difference between insurance and service providers. Under single payer, that distinction will vanish. Under single payer all health care providers will work for the same employer. Health care will become analogous to the Post Office. The staff will be different at different locations, but like the Post Office, the services offered will be the same.
The community where I live, Westminster, MD recently entered into an agreement with Ting Internet. Ting offers "crazy fast" Internet with download and upload speeds of 1000mb. (We presently have Xfinity and Verizon) The cost is $89.00/ month with startup fees of around $200.00. Check it out. BTW for you politically minded, all 5 of our county commissioners are Republican, along with the Mayor of Westminster and most, if not all of the city council.
I am quite sure when Wilmore said the word it ended in an A not R. I am white and I do not use the word. I have seen very many black people use the word and that is OK with me. I like George Carlin who told us that no word is bad. What makes it bad is the context not the word.
I guess if your skin is 1 x10-9 meters (1 nm) thick or you drink gallons of politically correct tea every day you may not enjoy Larry Wilmore's humor. I actually do like his humor and I enjoyed his talk too.
I would not enjoy watching Wilmore throwing marshmallows at the media and our President.
The quote is "Yo, Barry, you did it my nigga!"
The N word in the above quote is a term of endearment used by some black people.
An equally important question is whether there is sufficient competition to cable providers in these markets. Smaller companies may not be able to invest in the type of improvements in technology to compete with FIOS, with Direct TV, etc. So, the one question I have is whether consumers have adequate choices between service providers. If not, then the monopoly needs to be more stringently regulated. This may be an issue each state will need to address, or even each locality.
#1, the problem is that you are conflating two different things: Insurance and service providers.
There is not, nor will there ever likely be a monopoly for health care service providers. That is where the competition will always remain.
Who will provide the fastest access to care? The best quality of service? The friendliest staff? The most efficient handling of patients?
All of those points will make or break the wheat from the chaffe.
Internet companies however have natural monopolies built into the system by which their services are provided. We don't want 20 different lines for 20 different providers running through the air or underground to provide the same thing. We don't arguably ever need more than one even if the level of service and cost for that is regulated and reasonable.
There is no choice for consumers in most markets anyway, which really begs the broader question of whether internet providers should be privatized in the first place. Arguably, the internet is, or at least should be, ubiquitous. It is essential to a modern technical world, and increasingly, it is replacing plain old telephone service en masse. That is how our modern society communicates, and consumers being held hostage to the profit demands of a single service provider amounts to extorsion for what has become an essential service.
Ma Bell...again. Why do the capitalist not want competition. This deal should not go through. It is another example of how a corporatist choice to head the FCC is screwing the common good. Break up the media and the banks. How utterly ridiculous!
It is very disconcerting to see our government, time and time again, ignore the wishes of We, the People. However, they wouldn't be able to get away with this if so many (misguided and misinformed) citizens weren't so blindly pro-corporate. The FCC must not have much fear of the will of the people as it awards more and more to the private sector.
The main stream media, and other outlets, like a Tea Party Politics newsletter I get, are constantly pumping out hysterical lies about how only Conservative policies serve all businesses and business people. Thus, under-informed people insist that the F(r)EE Market must be allowed a free rein, and that any regulation or taxation will be a certain death to all businesses; both large and small.
These people just don't get that big box businesses eat small businesses for lunch, and far from welcoming competition, big box businesses pointedly seek monopolies, for which there is plenty of evidence. And that organizations such as the Chamber of Commerce only support the best interests of big box businesses and not the interests of small businesses at all.
This is a real problem because small businesses just don't see that the policies being established by the corporations are an inherent danger; not only to small businesses but to society and the world as a whole.
This leads me to having strong feelings about education. For me, reading, writing and arithmetic do not constitute a "good education". These are skill sets and don't teach critical thinking.
I believe we need to change our society from a classed structure where rich or "professional" people (white collar workers) are viewed as having a higher status because of their education. All people should have the best education in critical thinking possible, and prestige should be awarded, not on the basis of what type of work you do, but rather on whether or not you work at all; are you a contributing member of society? I saw this in Scandinavia many decades ago and it gives dignity to all members of society, meanwhile you get a populace that is capable of better thinking.
When the Beatles first started appearing over here in the mid 1960's, they were doing TV interviews. One thing that struck me immediately was that even though they were only "kids" and poor kids with scant higher education, they could discuss just about any advanced subject and seemed better educated than out college graduates (my father was an educator). I was impressed by their level of intelligence and intellectual curiosity and felt that Americans lacked the same.
I feel that this lacking is playing itself out in our collective blindness toward the enemy at our door, and if this country continues to fail to see the problems that come with embracing corporate rule; if this country fails to come about, and soon, I think America and the world are in for some very bad times looking forward.
The three or 4 health providers left in the country ARE monopilies. Why am I not sure about that spelling? Anyway, when the public option was removed from Obama Care it made health insurance mandatory, but without the government in the mix for them to compete with. So now being that it's the law to have to buy insurance those companies can fix the price they want to charge. That was Obama and Harry Reid and friends that allowed them to do it just to get it passed. Otherwise there never would have been enough Republican support to get the legislation passed. The butchered version of the original legislation gave insurance companies carte blanche to charge whatever they like because they HAVE NO COMPETITION. That's why your bills are so high!!! A single payer health system still allows you to buy private insurance if you like, but if you can get the same services from the government than insurance companies, if they want your business/ money, will HAVE TO OFFER A BETTER DEAL to get it!!!! DUH....
When did high speed internet become a necessary utility? If someone can't afford it, or can't afford to be in the "fast lane", are they being opressed? If so, when did that opression start? I didn't have high-speed internet until about 8 years ago. Was I being opressed before that? I mean, it existed. I just couldn't afford it back then.
I understand the Progressive idea that just because a thing exists, and it makes your life easier, everyone should have access to it. But that doesn't mesh with reality. There are a lot of things that exist, and would make all of our lives easier. Why stop with high speed internet?
Conservatives just love the unregulated free market.....makes it so easy for their beloved Fascists to consolidate power and wealth. It's amazing how quickly their free market capitalism morphs into extreme monopoly capitalism.
It's not anti Semitic. We all need to stop channeling shades of J
K Rowling's "Harry Potter" and he who must not be named before we are only left with grunts, nods, gestures and a few vowels.
America first can mean... America First.. Nothing more and nothing less and socialism as defined and practiced by Communists is not the same as European socialism but the point could be disingenuously argued like it was....just like we could argue that when Donald Trump says America should be first, he is trying to mimic pro Nazism.
Trump can't even take a crap without 15 Democrats rushing to analyze the texture and aroma and say why the bouquet of Bernie's crap is sooooo much more wonderful than the scent of Trump's. All of you sound like sycophantic idiots.
Actually both are right answers, large corporations should be broken up, they can statr with Banks, Cable/Broadband companies,wireless phone companies, etc,etc.
I don't understand progressive thinking: How is a monopoly good with single payer healthcare, and bad with cable companies? I'm much more concerned with my health, than what I watch on tv. Competition works! For healthcare, for cable TV, for everything"
Reply: Single payer re health care is public ownership. That is the difference.
I'm with DISH, but that didn't stop me from putting up an outdoor TV antenna. Fun to fool with. Works good. I'm getting some local channels not offered by subscription. I'm using both for now. If Pay TV gets stupid, I'll just drop it. Internet will be tougher to lose.
The difference is profit. Some things in life should have no profit incentives and one of those things in life is Health; the others are education and prisons.
These companies should be for-profit, but they shouldn't be afraid of competition. Lack of competition stifles innovation and price-competitiveness.
And I think you've forgotten that they didn't just create a bigger monopoly on TV, but also on the internet as well. I could care less about the TV, because I haven't owned one since I graduated High School, but the internet is a different story.
S. Korea's internet is not only faster than that of the US, but it is also cheaper and much more widely available (this includes wireless internet).
In fact, if the internet were to be considered a utility that should be accessible by everyone (which it should), towns all across the nation could create their own co-op that provides internet access. That level of competitiveness and "benefit" might well fix the issues we see today with our internet freedoms and access.
But for those that still have cable TV, they're still getting screwed since everything is going to cost more due to high costs of administrator, CEO, and shareholder profits coupled with a lack of competition.
I have yet to see a corporate merger in which customer service improved, prices didn't go up, and American workers were not laid off. I told the FCC that, but they don't give two hoots in a whirlwind what people like me think.
I don't understand progressive thinking: How is a monopoly good with single payer healthcare, and bad with cable companies? I'm much more concerned with my health, than what I watch on tv. Competition works! For healthcare, for cable TV, for everything
Snax,
I agree with you, under todays health care system there is a difference between insurance and service providers. Under single payer, that distinction will vanish. Under single payer all health care providers will work for the same employer. Health care will become analogous to the Post Office. The staff will be different at different locations, but like the Post Office, the services offered will be the same.
The community where I live, Westminster, MD recently entered into an agreement with Ting Internet. Ting offers "crazy fast" Internet with download and upload speeds of 1000mb. (We presently have Xfinity and Verizon) The cost is $89.00/ month with startup fees of around $200.00. Check it out. BTW for you politically minded, all 5 of our county commissioners are Republican, along with the Mayor of Westminster and most, if not all of the city council.
I am quite sure when Wilmore said the word it ended in an A not R. I am white and I do not use the word. I have seen very many black people use the word and that is OK with me. I like George Carlin who told us that no word is bad. What makes it bad is the context not the word.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUvdXxhLPa8
Language does evolve. I did notice a smile on Obama's face when Larry dropped the N word.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/278395-white-house-defe...
I guess if your skin is 1 x10-9 meters (1 nm) thick or you drink gallons of politically correct tea every day you may not enjoy Larry Wilmore's humor. I actually do like his humor and I enjoyed his talk too.
I would not enjoy watching Wilmore throwing marshmallows at the media and our President.
The quote is "Yo, Barry, you did it my nigga!"
The N word in the above quote is a term of endearment used by some black people.
An equally important question is whether there is sufficient competition to cable providers in these markets. Smaller companies may not be able to invest in the type of improvements in technology to compete with FIOS, with Direct TV, etc. So, the one question I have is whether consumers have adequate choices between service providers. If not, then the monopoly needs to be more stringently regulated. This may be an issue each state will need to address, or even each locality.
#1, the problem is that you are conflating two different things: Insurance and service providers.
There is not, nor will there ever likely be a monopoly for health care service providers. That is where the competition will always remain.
Who will provide the fastest access to care? The best quality of service? The friendliest staff? The most efficient handling of patients?
All of those points will make or break the wheat from the chaffe.
Internet companies however have natural monopolies built into the system by which their services are provided. We don't want 20 different lines for 20 different providers running through the air or underground to provide the same thing. We don't arguably ever need more than one even if the level of service and cost for that is regulated and reasonable.
There is no choice for consumers in most markets anyway, which really begs the broader question of whether internet providers should be privatized in the first place. Arguably, the internet is, or at least should be, ubiquitous. It is essential to a modern technical world, and increasingly, it is replacing plain old telephone service en masse. That is how our modern society communicates, and consumers being held hostage to the profit demands of a single service provider amounts to extorsion for what has become an essential service.
Ma Bell...again. Why do the capitalist not want competition. This deal should not go through. It is another example of how a corporatist choice to head the FCC is screwing the common good. Break up the media and the banks. How utterly ridiculous!
The Frumious Orangethatch
[a reference to the Lewis Carroll character]
--- {… a rhyme …} ---
It’s pleasant, this early-morn’s quiet,
darkly wet and cold like a grave, -
- when a fellow can rest from the riot
where politicians rave
each as if it’s HE who can save:
“Harken!! I’m giving to you the skinny
on how I’ll save you from ignominy.”
WHAT??!! Us saved by a Bandersnatch Frumious
who’s himSelf the apex of {ignominious} ignomumious??!!
--- … {Google-izate for images of Bandersnatches and Jabberwockies such as Donald Trump and Ted Cruz.}
=============================
It is very disconcerting to see our government, time and time again, ignore the wishes of We, the People. However, they wouldn't be able to get away with this if so many (misguided and misinformed) citizens weren't so blindly pro-corporate. The FCC must not have much fear of the will of the people as it awards more and more to the private sector.
The main stream media, and other outlets, like a Tea Party Politics newsletter I get, are constantly pumping out hysterical lies about how only Conservative policies serve all businesses and business people. Thus, under-informed people insist that the F(r)EE Market must be allowed a free rein, and that any regulation or taxation will be a certain death to all businesses; both large and small.
These people just don't get that big box businesses eat small businesses for lunch, and far from welcoming competition, big box businesses pointedly seek monopolies, for which there is plenty of evidence. And that organizations such as the Chamber of Commerce only support the best interests of big box businesses and not the interests of small businesses at all.
This is a real problem because small businesses just don't see that the policies being established by the corporations are an inherent danger; not only to small businesses but to society and the world as a whole.
This leads me to having strong feelings about education. For me, reading, writing and arithmetic do not constitute a "good education". These are skill sets and don't teach critical thinking.
I believe we need to change our society from a classed structure where rich or "professional" people (white collar workers) are viewed as having a higher status because of their education. All people should have the best education in critical thinking possible, and prestige should be awarded, not on the basis of what type of work you do, but rather on whether or not you work at all; are you a contributing member of society? I saw this in Scandinavia many decades ago and it gives dignity to all members of society, meanwhile you get a populace that is capable of better thinking.
When the Beatles first started appearing over here in the mid 1960's, they were doing TV interviews. One thing that struck me immediately was that even though they were only "kids" and poor kids with scant higher education, they could discuss just about any advanced subject and seemed better educated than out college graduates (my father was an educator). I was impressed by their level of intelligence and intellectual curiosity and felt that Americans lacked the same.
I feel that this lacking is playing itself out in our collective blindness toward the enemy at our door, and if this country continues to fail to see the problems that come with embracing corporate rule; if this country fails to come about, and soon, I think America and the world are in for some very bad times looking forward.
The three or 4 health providers left in the country ARE monopilies. Why am I not sure about that spelling? Anyway, when the public option was removed from Obama Care it made health insurance mandatory, but without the government in the mix for them to compete with. So now being that it's the law to have to buy insurance those companies can fix the price they want to charge. That was Obama and Harry Reid and friends that allowed them to do it just to get it passed. Otherwise there never would have been enough Republican support to get the legislation passed. The butchered version of the original legislation gave insurance companies carte blanche to charge whatever they like because they HAVE NO COMPETITION. That's why your bills are so high!!! A single payer health system still allows you to buy private insurance if you like, but if you can get the same services from the government than insurance companies, if they want your business/ money, will HAVE TO OFFER A BETTER DEAL to get it!!!! DUH....
Wish I wasn't hearing, " I don't think Bernie will get the nomination "
I believe in the power of positive thinking.
I cut the cord & am saving 1000s/yr.
I support freespeechtv although it remains unreliable, so keep up with youtube alternatives.
I am continuing with Internet as long as feasible.
I don't agree with FCC regulation, because they are not serving the greater good of democracy for Free Speech.
I agree with Internet as a Utility, but wonder about easier monitoring it may cause.
I can use a pause in any service as a means of protest relying on a low budget android Smart Phone.
I wish I had a pithy solution to suggest.
When did high speed internet become a necessary utility? If someone can't afford it, or can't afford to be in the "fast lane", are they being opressed? If so, when did that opression start? I didn't have high-speed internet until about 8 years ago. Was I being opressed before that? I mean, it existed. I just couldn't afford it back then.
I understand the Progressive idea that just because a thing exists, and it makes your life easier, everyone should have access to it. But that doesn't mesh with reality. There are a lot of things that exist, and would make all of our lives easier. Why stop with high speed internet?
Conservatives just love the unregulated free market.....makes it so easy for their beloved Fascists to consolidate power and wealth. It's amazing how quickly their free market capitalism morphs into extreme monopoly capitalism.
Walmart!
It's not anti Semitic. We all need to stop channeling shades of J
K Rowling's "Harry Potter" and he who must not be named before we are only left with grunts, nods, gestures and a few vowels.
America first can mean... America First.. Nothing more and nothing less and socialism as defined and practiced by Communists is not the same as European socialism but the point could be disingenuously argued like it was....just like we could argue that when Donald Trump says America should be first, he is trying to mimic pro Nazism.
Trump can't even take a crap without 15 Democrats rushing to analyze the texture and aroma and say why the bouquet of Bernie's crap is sooooo much more wonderful than the scent of Trump's. All of you sound like sycophantic idiots.
Actually both are right answers, large corporations should be broken up, they can statr with Banks, Cable/Broadband companies,wireless phone companies, etc,etc.
When did the Federal government decide ignoring the Sherman Anti Trust act would be a good idea?
Right. On.
Single payer re health care is government, that is the difference.
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I don't understand progressive thinking: How is a monopoly good with single payer healthcare, and bad with cable companies? I'm much more concerned with my health, than what I watch on tv. Competition works! For healthcare, for cable TV, for everything"
Reply: Single payer re health care is public ownership. That is the difference.
I'm with DISH, but that didn't stop me from putting up an outdoor TV antenna. Fun to fool with. Works good. I'm getting some local channels not offered by subscription. I'm using both for now. If Pay TV gets stupid, I'll just drop it. Internet will be tougher to lose.
Internet is too important to leave to private companies.
Run as utility.
South Korea and Japan have cheap excellent interenet and
they do this in effect.
ct
#3 - I guess the FCC is a self perpetuating Institution and is likely influenced or bought that carries its own agenda
Beware! Such entities are generally full of loser humans with no concern for anyone or anything other than self preservation
The difference is profit. Some things in life should have no profit incentives and one of those things in life is Health; the others are education and prisons.
These companies should be for-profit, but they shouldn't be afraid of competition. Lack of competition stifles innovation and price-competitiveness.
And I think you've forgotten that they didn't just create a bigger monopoly on TV, but also on the internet as well. I could care less about the TV, because I haven't owned one since I graduated High School, but the internet is a different story.
S. Korea's internet is not only faster than that of the US, but it is also cheaper and much more widely available (this includes wireless internet).
In fact, if the internet were to be considered a utility that should be accessible by everyone (which it should), towns all across the nation could create their own co-op that provides internet access. That level of competitiveness and "benefit" might well fix the issues we see today with our internet freedoms and access.
But for those that still have cable TV, they're still getting screwed since everything is going to cost more due to high costs of administrator, CEO, and shareholder profits coupled with a lack of competition.
Anything else?
I have yet to see a corporate merger in which customer service improved, prices didn't go up, and American workers were not laid off. I told the FCC that, but they don't give two hoots in a whirlwind what people like me think.
Does competition work Ou812? The USA is ranked dead last in medical care.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/danmunro/2014/06/16/u-s-healthcare-ranked-de...
We also do not rank in the top 10 for internet speed and probably pay the most:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Internet_connection_s...
I don't understand progressive thinking: How is a monopoly good with single payer healthcare, and bad with cable companies? I'm much more concerned with my health, than what I watch on tv. Competition works! For healthcare, for cable TV, for everything