Yup, once again corporate media has dropped the ball. Giving Congressional staff members subpoena power to grill private citizens at their discretion in secret "Star Chambers" was a bigger story than a closed-door vote to neuter the Office of Congressional Ethics; although, both are shamelessly craven. And all this on day one!
I'm not sure if it's their cunning, in the sense of making clever chess moves, as much as it's just their nature. They simply can't help themselves. In their hearts, Republicans are fascists, revealing themselves in every word they utter and every move they make.
The most important founding principle of our nation -- that all power resides with the People -- is beyond their comprehension. All that right-wingers and their leaders understand is the pursuit of their own power and wealth at the expense of everyone else -- exactly what our forefathers warned us against!
It's going to get ugly as we enter this new dark age. We must remain vigilant.
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The biggest problem with Republicans is that they are CUNNING. That is not the same as "smart". Smart people know stupid when they see it. They know outrageous when they see it. But they aren't too alert when it comes to cunning. Lets say the Republicans KNEW what they were doing in trying to subvert the OCE in the light of day, KNEW it was outrageous, and KNEW they would be caught. They also knew they would be stopped, but it may well have been just for show anyway. Of course, the move would grab all kinds of attention, create a hullabaloo, focus the media, etc, etc. If you are a pickpocket, however, that is just what you want: cause a distraction over there so you can sneak in over here. What else was going on at the time? I picked up a little story over on Bill Moyers today. It seems the Republicans made progress on the side by giving the GOP legislators' STAFF MEMBERS the authority to subpoena and question people they have on their witch hunt list. We won't be watching Hillary Clinton being grilled about Benghazi, or Cecile Richards put on the spot about Planned Parenthood (and of course, the American people will not be witnessing a defendant's unflappability, or a recognize a questioner's obvious set-up or snide insinutation). No, this can be done in the back rooms even in the ABSENCE of a legislator (who will be out in C-SPAN's eye all day long). We know how much time and money is wasted on these "investigations" so now they will go on quietly in the background. The Repubs have full control of government for just two short years and they want to hurry and make all the changes they can. Best to give their staff the job of hunting down witches and grilling those who would challenge them without the legislators having to take time away from all the other gutting operations they will be involved in. But that OCE outrage? They figured that would fail anyway. No, the Democrats, and the American people, have to understand how CUNNING works if we want to survive the Trump years. The next time some big flap occurs, look around and see what else is going on. You'll probably find something. The GOP has been using this tactic for years, and it keeps working for them.
The biggest problem with Republicans is that they are CUNNING. That is not the same as "smart". Smart people know stupid when they see it. They know outrageous when they see it. But they aren't too alert when it comes to cunning. Lets say the Republicans KNEW what they were doing in trying to subvert the OCE in the light of day, KNEW it was outrageous, and KNEW they would be caught. They also knew they would be stopped, but it may well have been just for show anyway. Of course, the move would grab all kinds of attention, create a hullabaloo, focus the media, etc, etc. If you are a pickpocket, however, that is just what you want: cause a distraction over there so you can sneak in over here. What else was going on at the time? I picked up a little story over on Bill Moyers today. It seems the Republicans made progress on the side by giving the GOP legislators' STAFF MEMBERS the authority to subpoena and question people they have on their witch hunt list. We won't be watching Hillary Clinton being grilled about Benghazi, or Cecile Richards put on the spot about Planned Parenthood (and of course, the American people will not be witnessing a defendant's unflappability, or a recognize a questioner's obvious set-up or snide insinutation). No, this can be done in the back rooms even in the ABSENCE of a legislator (who will be out in C-SPAN's eye all day long). We know how much time and money is wasted on these "investigations" so now they will go on quietly in the background. The Repubs have full control of government for just two short years and they want to hurry and make all the changes they can. Best to give their staff the job of hunting down witches and grilling those who would challenge them without the legislators having to take time away from all the other gutting operations they will be involved in. But that OCE outrage? They figured that would fail anyway. No, the Democrats, and the American people, have to understand how CUNNING works if we want to survive the Trump years. The next time some big flap occurs, look around and see what else is going on. You'll probably find something. The GOP has been using this tactic for years, and it keeps working for them.
I WANT TO BE ABLE TO THROW THEIR BAD DECISION IN THEIR FACE WHEN IT ALL GOES TO HELL AND FOR NOT TAKING ANY ACTION TO FIND OUT WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON.
Hey...No offense, but I agree with you more than you may think! Until we can start getting honest news (not smoke and mirrors news), it's going to be almost impossible to try to set up a good "connection" with some people. Until then, I would like to suggest that you find the most progressive friends you can and join together with them to resist. Power to the people!!!
I keep wondering if a Trump regieme might actually be a good thing! - I thought that the massive call-in was behind the turn-around. Getting the public more involved like this is really great! And if they keep this up, and we do too, it'll be the best civics lesson ever.
See... No offense, but you sound like a very privileged individual. Some of us (LGBT, POC, etc.) can't afford to just debate about our EXISTENCE constantly or have "friends" who are basically like, "I don't hate you, but I don't think you deserve to be equal to me." I've certainly tried talking to them but there's a point where you're TIRED of having to explain to someone why you should be treated like a damn person!! My life is NOT up for debate and there's no wiggle room for compromise. You're either with me or against me and I will not waste my time on a racist, homophobic, sexist, or otherwise bigoted person.
TRUMP IS A RAPIST AND IF YOU SUPPORT HIM THEN YOU REVOLT ME.
As long as the media is focused on Republican's (lack of) ethics, maybe this would be the opportune time to organize a shadow ethics committee of concerned citizens to start building a case to bring impeachment charges against Trump right away, keeping it in the forefront of the daily media cycle by constantly hammering Republicans over their damn fool heads.
Why wait? Their feckless leader will be in violation of the Constitution right out of the chute, as laid out by Heather Digby Parton in today's Salon article below. Will they ever impeach him? Probably not. But it sure can't hurt the Democrats -- or our country and its principals -- by keeping their feet to the fire with the incontrovertible facts of Trump's untenable position. After all, impeachment is what they had planned for Hillary.
I suppose the Republicans who are involved in this chicanery likely want to be able to do anything they want under the cover of darkness and then when they are caught, claim that everything was transparent. Also, a comment which has been made on your radio program over the last couple of days is bothering me. Yesterday a gentleman called and proposed that all of those people who live in red states should be made to suffer so they receive retribution for voting for Trump. Today, you seemed to support that idea. Thom, I listen to your program most days and almost always agree with your ideas. But this, I can't support making any American suffer regardless of whether they brought it upon themselves or it is happening as a result of Republican policy. I would hope that there would be a better way to bring them to the light.
Here we go.. another Bush era first term-like monopoly.. hope they overstep in it big-time and show the folks who lapped up what Trump was serving what he and his cronies are REALLY all about... Smh..
The takeaway I have is that congress needs MORE scrutiny, definitely not less. Strengthen the OCE, give it broader and deeper powers. And - good points at the end of Thom's essay: what are they hiding? In the near future, as America is dragged deeper into the swamp, what will we not have known about if congress were to gut the OCE?
Yup, once again corporate media has dropped the ball. Giving Congressional staff members subpoena power to grill private citizens at their discretion in secret "Star Chambers" was a bigger story than a closed-door vote to neuter the Office of Congressional Ethics; although, both are shamelessly craven. And all this on day one!
I'm not sure if it's their cunning, in the sense of making clever chess moves, as much as it's just their nature. They simply can't help themselves. In their hearts, Republicans are fascists, revealing themselves in every word they utter and every move they make.
The most important founding principle of our nation -- that all power resides with the People -- is beyond their comprehension. All that right-wingers and their leaders understand is the pursuit of their own power and wealth at the expense of everyone else -- exactly what our forefathers warned us against!
It's going to get ugly as we enter this new dark age. We must remain vigilant.
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Oops. Sorry. I don't know how that got in there twice.
The biggest problem with Republicans is that they are CUNNING. That is not the same as "smart". Smart people know stupid when they see it. They know outrageous when they see it. But they aren't too alert when it comes to cunning. Lets say the Republicans KNEW what they were doing in trying to subvert the OCE in the light of day, KNEW it was outrageous, and KNEW they would be caught. They also knew they would be stopped, but it may well have been just for show anyway. Of course, the move would grab all kinds of attention, create a hullabaloo, focus the media, etc, etc. If you are a pickpocket, however, that is just what you want: cause a distraction over there so you can sneak in over here. What else was going on at the time? I picked up a little story over on Bill Moyers today. It seems the Republicans made progress on the side by giving the GOP legislators' STAFF MEMBERS the authority to subpoena and question people they have on their witch hunt list. We won't be watching Hillary Clinton being grilled about Benghazi, or Cecile Richards put on the spot about Planned Parenthood (and of course, the American people will not be witnessing a defendant's unflappability, or a recognize a questioner's obvious set-up or snide insinutation). No, this can be done in the back rooms even in the ABSENCE of a legislator (who will be out in C-SPAN's eye all day long). We know how much time and money is wasted on these "investigations" so now they will go on quietly in the background. The Repubs have full control of government for just two short years and they want to hurry and make all the changes they can. Best to give their staff the job of hunting down witches and grilling those who would challenge them without the legislators having to take time away from all the other gutting operations they will be involved in. But that OCE outrage? They figured that would fail anyway. No, the Democrats, and the American people, have to understand how CUNNING works if we want to survive the Trump years. The next time some big flap occurs, look around and see what else is going on. You'll probably find something. The GOP has been using this tactic for years, and it keeps working for them.
The biggest problem with Republicans is that they are CUNNING. That is not the same as "smart". Smart people know stupid when they see it. They know outrageous when they see it. But they aren't too alert when it comes to cunning. Lets say the Republicans KNEW what they were doing in trying to subvert the OCE in the light of day, KNEW it was outrageous, and KNEW they would be caught. They also knew they would be stopped, but it may well have been just for show anyway. Of course, the move would grab all kinds of attention, create a hullabaloo, focus the media, etc, etc. If you are a pickpocket, however, that is just what you want: cause a distraction over there so you can sneak in over here. What else was going on at the time? I picked up a little story over on Bill Moyers today. It seems the Republicans made progress on the side by giving the GOP legislators' STAFF MEMBERS the authority to subpoena and question people they have on their witch hunt list. We won't be watching Hillary Clinton being grilled about Benghazi, or Cecile Richards put on the spot about Planned Parenthood (and of course, the American people will not be witnessing a defendant's unflappability, or a recognize a questioner's obvious set-up or snide insinutation). No, this can be done in the back rooms even in the ABSENCE of a legislator (who will be out in C-SPAN's eye all day long). We know how much time and money is wasted on these "investigations" so now they will go on quietly in the background. The Repubs have full control of government for just two short years and they want to hurry and make all the changes they can. Best to give their staff the job of hunting down witches and grilling those who would challenge them without the legislators having to take time away from all the other gutting operations they will be involved in. But that OCE outrage? They figured that would fail anyway. No, the Democrats, and the American people, have to understand how CUNNING works if we want to survive the Trump years. The next time some big flap occurs, look around and see what else is going on. You'll probably find something. The GOP has been using this tactic for years, and it keeps working for them.
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I WANT TO BE ABLE TO THROW THEIR BAD DECISION IN THEIR FACE WHEN IT ALL GOES TO HELL AND FOR NOT TAKING ANY ACTION TO FIND OUT WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON.
Hey...No offense, but I agree with you more than you may think! Until we can start getting honest news (not smoke and mirrors news), it's going to be almost impossible to try to set up a good "connection" with some people. Until then, I would like to suggest that you find the most progressive friends you can and join together with them to resist. Power to the people!!!
I keep wondering if a Trump regieme might actually be a good thing! - I thought that the massive call-in was behind the turn-around. Getting the public more involved like this is really great! And if they keep this up, and we do too, it'll be the best civics lesson ever.
See... No offense, but you sound like a very privileged individual. Some of us (LGBT, POC, etc.) can't afford to just debate about our EXISTENCE constantly or have "friends" who are basically like, "I don't hate you, but I don't think you deserve to be equal to me." I've certainly tried talking to them but there's a point where you're TIRED of having to explain to someone why you should be treated like a damn person!! My life is NOT up for debate and there's no wiggle room for compromise. You're either with me or against me and I will not waste my time on a racist, homophobic, sexist, or otherwise bigoted person.
TRUMP IS A RAPIST AND IF YOU SUPPORT HIM THEN YOU REVOLT ME.
@Diane#50:
Being a public forum for all to peruse, is there any reason why anyone should not respond to opposing views?
Everybody has the right to say whatever they want, as forcefully as they like; everybody has the right to disagree, as strongly as they see fit.
Hard to remember that your intention to drain the swamp when you are up to your ass in aligators.
This is just an example of how these Republicans are going to work.
As long as the media is focused on Republican's (lack of) ethics, maybe this would be the opportune time to organize a shadow ethics committee of concerned citizens to start building a case to bring impeachment charges against Trump right away, keeping it in the forefront of the daily media cycle by constantly hammering Republicans over their damn fool heads.
Why wait? Their feckless leader will be in violation of the Constitution right out of the chute, as laid out by Heather Digby Parton in today's Salon article below. Will they ever impeach him? Probably not. But it sure can't hurt the Democrats -- or our country and its principals -- by keeping their feet to the fire with the incontrovertible facts of Trump's untenable position. After all, impeachment is what they had planned for Hillary.
http://www.salon.com/2017/01/04/does-impeachment-begin-now-the-case-for-building-the-end-of-trumps-presidency-before-it-even-starts/
I suppose the Republicans who are involved in this chicanery likely want to be able to do anything they want under the cover of darkness and then when they are caught, claim that everything was transparent. Also, a comment which has been made on your radio program over the last couple of days is bothering me. Yesterday a gentleman called and proposed that all of those people who live in red states should be made to suffer so they receive retribution for voting for Trump. Today, you seemed to support that idea. Thom, I listen to your program most days and almost always agree with your ideas. But this, I can't support making any American suffer regardless of whether they brought it upon themselves or it is happening as a result of Republican policy. I would hope that there would be a better way to bring them to the light.
Here we go.. another Bush era first term-like monopoly.. hope they overstep in it big-time and show the folks who lapped up what Trump was serving what he and his cronies are REALLY all about... Smh..
The takeaway I have is that congress needs MORE scrutiny, definitely not less. Strengthen the OCE, give it broader and deeper powers. And - good points at the end of Thom's essay: what are they hiding? In the near future, as America is dragged deeper into the swamp, what will we not have known about if congress were to gut the OCE?