Stopgap - I would suggest that "they do not know it!"

Sociopathic comes to mind

Deepspace, You do realize that Dianereynolds is reportedly a pseudonym used by Chelsea Clinton when checking into hotels. I've long thought that Di-nold is not really a woman at all, but a male of sorts, that thinks using Dianereynolds is some kind of right-wingers inside joke, that he/she finds cynically amusing. You know, like when they say Democrat Party instead of Democratic Party.

To quote Pee Wee Herman: "that's so funny, I forgot to laugh."

Based on Kilosgrd's #15 reasoning, I might as well drop my homeowners insurance. Hell, I woke up this morning and the roof was over my head and all the windows and doors were intact. What am I paying for?

Why do I bother to lock the doors at night? I've never had my home broken into. I woke up this morning and I was alive and well and all my possessions were still there.

Might as well get rid of my health insurance. Even though I'm about to turn 71, I woke up this morning, walked a mile and swam 60 laps. What could possibly ever go wrong?

While I'm at it, I might as well get rid of my auto insurance. I haven't had an accident in over 40 years. I woke up this morning and my car was out in the carport just the way I left it. In fact, why do I bother having the oil changed and getting new tires. I woke up this morning and that was all fine too.

Thanks Kilosgrd. You're gonna save me a ton of money.

However, I do have to disagree with you about weather prediction. I get up every morning and watch the weather and they tell me almost exactly how hot and cold it will be that day, and the rest of the week for that matter with amazing accuracy. In fact, they tell me how hot it will be at every hour of the day. They tell me if I should expect wind or rain and they even tell me when to expect it and what direction it will come from so accurately I can almost always count on it. In fact I do count on it! They even tell me when there will be unusual dips in the temperature or other unusual meteorological events such as frost freezes so I know to cover the plants. And I find all of that to be extremely accurate too.

No doubt, they are not as accurate as grandpa's arthritic bones and bunions or the old barometer on the wall, but they often have a very attractive lady reporting the weather, so it kinda makes it OK that they are not as accurate as the old fashioned methods. All in all, weather prediction is one of the few things in the modern world that I can count on.

LMAO again! Such fragile snowflakes!

The arrogance of ignorance is your department, ice-cube-in-a-glass lady/Granny, and it is on full display in this thread. Go back and read your own empty words, circular logic, condescending attitude, and paucity of thought before lashing out, thou hypocrites. You and your like-minded Trump troglodytes constantly name-call, insult, and lie to all who disagree. In fact, those are "crooked" Donnie's only leadership qualities, and he sucks at it. So do you.

Superficial schoolyard bullies usually can't take it when someone gives them a taste of their own medicine. You just proved it, yet again, sub-teach/Granny.

Willful ignorance is arrogance on steroids -- the stubborn refusal to listen to reason, to laughably elevate one's IQ above nearly everyone else in the world, and to utterly and repeatedly fail to defend untenable positions despite all evidence to the contrary, which is Einstein's definition of insanity.

Anyway, climate science is not about attitude and opinion, or all that other psycho-subjective ego-mumbo-jumbo in which you and Diane love to wallow. It's about discovering facts. Go back and finish middle school, as you so condescendingly "advised" Legend to do. This time, pay closer attention to your science teacher; you might actually learn something, you "washed-up rightie."

In the serious, non-partisan, scientific community of adults and real teachers, the debate is over about whether or not the planet is, in fact, experiencing the beginning stages leading up to a no-going-back "tipping point" of a geologically historic, severe, human-induced, global-warming trend. The leading-edge question now is whether or not humans can somehow muster the collective will (which, at this point, is primarily an international, all-hands-on-deck, political leadership problem) to reverse our inexorable march on this catastrophic path before time runs out and we pass the tipping point -- or, at the very least, try to work together to mitigate the most dire consequences of today's failure to address the root cause, which will ensure that very dark future, about which scientists are loudly tolling the bell.

Can you not see the monumental absurdity and utter foolishness of Trump's decision to pull the plug on the nascent multinational climate agreements, especially since the United States is the second biggest emitter of greenhouse gases and the most influential world power? Can you not see how meaningless and useless the polemic contrariness of mere opinion is in the face of overwhelming evidence of humankind's paramount dilemma? If you cannot or will not open your eyes to objective reality, then we are truly done here, and it is absolutely the end of any further discussion of the matter.

This is not about you and me individually or one's level of intelligence. But if you doggedly continue to refuse to recognize the simple and obvious truth laid out in front of you, and every other living being on Earth, beyond one's subjective opinions and attitudes, then what is the point of dialogue? It would be, and is, a classic exercise in futility, a total waste of time and energy, better spent educating oneself.

Peel away the layers of the onion, and there at the center is the primary cause of global warming: the human mind -- your mind!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfGMYdalClU

Kathy Griffin was a self described comedian that has turned herself into a punch line. Your version of excellent must require that one spends their time getting naked to attract any attention. Griffin makes the Kardashians look legit.

Of course none of you deniers would look up a fact or post a reference. That is something that right wingers cannot seem to do.

Kend you a dead wrong that under Obama CO2 emissions went down by zero.

https://www.google.com/#q=co2+emissions+us

Both China and India have been cancelling coal plants since the Paris Accord was signed. In fact coal plant construction is described as in a free fall.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/mar/22/coal-power-plants-gr...

https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2017/6/2/15723988/winners-los...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/france-trolls-trump-apos-corrected-054549826....

I recently read that The Donald has been offered 20 billion dollars, upon leaving office, if he serves the interests of the military-industrial complex. This same article also said that Al Gore accepter 100 million dollars if he would not challenge the Florida count and allow Dubya to become POTUS. If this is true, it would explain a lot of things.

Not at all Kend. My electric utility restructured how they charge for electricity. They now charge based on your peak usage, which totally discourages going solar. Your peak usage will be at night. This is in one of the sunniest states in the nation. FL is doing similar. This is legal and supported by corporate right wingers. China and India are both doing a lot to lower carbon output. Both would be severly hurt by rising sea levels. As one of the leading carbon output per capita country setting an example for others to follow is important. 195 countries signed onto this plan. I do not know of any other plan that has had such support. We join Syria and Nicaraqua in not being in it. Suggest that you truth check Trumps speech. This is not a left or right wing problem. It is a world problem.

http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science_and_impacts/science/each-co...

On display here is the one of the main reasons Donald Trump was elected President. The condescending, arrogant attitudes, the I'm smarter than you, the name calling, the unwillingness to even listen to anyone with a different opinion. Deepspace summed it up with "So, nope, not up for discussion. We're done here". Wrong Ryan, the washed up lefties may be done, but those of us who elected Donald Trump President have only just begun.

LMAO! Stupidity defining non-stupidity! Ou812 and Diane are about as hard to understand as toilet paper and much less useful. As usual, Hotdog Lady missed the salient point entirely -- whoosh, right over Michele Bachmann's pretty little pinhead, sucking the big one.

Don't flatter yourself, ice-cube-in-a glass sub-teach, I know exactly what ol' Granny was trying to communicate nonverbally through the fog of her addled mind. She is such a sarcastic little biddy, neither clever nor subtle. We've all heard that sophomoric meme a thousand times from climate deniers: "Snort, first 'they' say the Earth is cooling, then 'they' say it's warming ...and, well, golly gee willikers, there's yer proof right thar that it's all a pile of hooey from those gaddamn libruls!"

Again, I'll repeat the one and only logical response using simpler words this time, in an attempt (no doubt futile) to slice through the thick fog of willful ignorance: Why would any sane person, possessing even an inkling of common sense and the most basic ability to calculate mathematical odds, readily believe the one percent and not the 99 percent? "Does not compute, Will Rogers!"

The one percent includes the disseminators (left or right) of incomplete information, half-baked theories, and wild speculations derived from random, outdated, out-of-context, second-hand articles, splashy MSM news bulletins, and/or other highly questionable sources -- whether it's the gullible (left or right) who may have once believed in imminent global cooling and a new ice age or the gullible (left or right) who may still deny the seriousness of this current and unique period of human-caused global warming, which is already triggered by our relatively rapid release of carbon into the atmosphere, and which will subsequently trigger the rapid release of methane that is much worse than carbon by magnitudes.

The 99 percent includes the highly educated, dedicated, and disciplined scientists who are experienced experts in their respective fields related to climate change, and who have been for decades (and still are -- scientific research is an ongoing process of discovery) methodically and meticulously building up a large body of irrefutable hard evidence that clearly indicates a radical increase in the mean temperature that will lead to dire consequences for all life on Earth, unless humans quit belching out copious amounts of carbon as soon as possible before the tipping point of no return.

The debate is over ...except on Fux News and other wing-nut outlets, wearing their heavy blinders and hopelessly committed to the cartoonish science fiction of their ideological positions. Beyond the politics, it's an issue that is neither liberal nor conservative, nor any other flavor of rhetorical posturing; it's just the outside reality of how the laws of physics dictate climate change, independent of what clueless lay people, or less-disciplined researchers and conspiracy theorists, may or may not think about it. So, who ya gonna believe? Put it on a scale: one percent against 99 percent. Mmmm... taking odds, anyone?

Puh-lease! No serious climate scientists ever tried "to convince the world and [sic] ice age was eminent [sic again]" or that "we weren't going to see the new century." WTF is wrong with you?! For Chrissake, listen to yourself! Quit arguing ignorant, right-wing talking points and educate your dumbass at the IPCC website. You're supposed to be a teacher (Ha!), and you don't even comprehend geological timeframes and tipping points?! Seriously, sub-teach, it is way past the time for you to put down the chalk and retire to the happy farm. "Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone!"

Don't even bother responding. There is no need to further expound upon your fake thesis and false narrative; we all get it. You and Granny and all your fellow Fux News trash compactors are convinced that science is a vast liberal conspiracy to destroy capitalism and befuddle the masses with that insidious germ of evil socialism, and you two are here to enlighten the uneducated with esoteric knowledge gleaned from Wall Street billionaires and fossil-fuel-industry propagandists. "...washed up lefties; leftie/socialists; washed up lefties; leftie/socialists; washed up lefties; leftie/socialists; na nah na nah na nah nuh..."

You say that you are disappointed that people don't want to exchange ideas and don't respect your different perspective. Aw, you poor little snowflake. Get real! When the stakes are so damn high, ideas must have merit. Denying the science of global warming is not a legitimate stance; it is pure lunacy. So, nope, not up for discussion. We're done here.

I'm really sick of these shit-head lowlifes that call into talk shows and suggest that climate change is "unsettled science." What the fuck does that mean? What is unsettled science? What is settled science?

There are no absolutes!

Everything is relative!

Be that as it may, there are universal phenomena that are observable and can be tested and regarded as fact. Also, we create standards that are accepted as fact. For instance, there are 12 inches in a foot, 36 inches in a yard and so on. We also regard as a fact that if we walk out in the rain unprotected, we will get wet. We regard it as a fact.

Knowledge and use of such facts make it possible to function. Period!

And yet all of these facts are still relative and not absolute. If a twelve inch ruler is accelerated at close to the speed of light, it will change in size and time will slow. These theories have been tested and proven to be accepted facts.

Yes, nature affects the climate, but if lightning (a natural phenomenon) strikes your house and sets it on fire, you don't put it out by pouring gasoline on it. Just as if nature puts too much carbon in the atmosphere, you don't solve the problem by adding more carbon.

One astronaut observed that the earth's atmosphere is like an onion skin when seen from outer space. To think that humans dumping billions of tons of pollutants into this relatively thin layer since the dawn of the industrial age and that all life on the planet depends on, does not affect the climate, is pure insanity.

Just because rich corporations can pay a few scientists to muddy the water does not make the science "unsettled." It only makes it possible for the greedy, immoral lowlife trash of the world to rationalize their lack of caring for what happens, to even the future of their own children, while they smugly pursue their wasteful and wanton ways.

Therefore, when someone tells you that climate change is "unsettled science." They are just some despicable, rotten, lying, selfish asshole!!! And they know it!