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" sophisticated, coordinated assaults on targeted minorities, young people, and the poor, all who typically vote Democratic in large numbers...." Deepspace
So, what you are saying is, the more that people can fend and provide for themselves, the less they need the Democrat party. The democrat party needs a permanent underclass to keep voting for dems. The democrats keep them in poverty for that purpose. They promise everything and deliver just enough to keep them poor.
K2
"But where is the accountability in the Republican Party for their institutionalized, decades-long, lie-cheat-and-steal crusade of truly monumental proportions to disenfranchise millions upon millions of, primarily, Democratic voters, of which the evidence is boundless." Deepspace
Evidence is boundless? Then where is it? "Institutionalized, decades-long, lie...." News flash deepspace, Donald Trump was the outsider in this election. There were some 16 other Republicans vying for the nomination. All of those were insiders. Many of them were "never Trumpers" and still are. If the Repubs were going to cheat, Trump would have never gotten the nomination. However, you are too shallow to understand that.
K2
@ #42 & #43
Worth stating twice.
It is hard to figure out what you leftie/socialists are whining about. First you complain when the Republicans attempt to repeal and replace obamacare, they you scream louder when they fail to just repeal obamacare. Now, both those options have failed in congress and you scream even louder. Relax, you have done your job. According to the Democrat party and the radio talking heads, obamacare is doing just fine thank you very much. Everyone is insured and the rates are very reasonable.
So, if the healthcontrol issue is dead, maybe time to move on to something else. Surely if you think hard enough you can come up with another reason to hate President Trump or his wife and family.
#resistblockprotesteverything
" I certainly don't waste my time on conservative sites where the information is all bullshit and where readers are impervious to facts. What's the point of that???" Stopgap
It's because you are incapable of execpting the truth. You visit like minded sites such as this just to reinfore your already preconceived beliefs. Mutual masterbation, if you will.
It is obvious with replies such as yours and deepspace (between the ears) that facts that do not align with your closed minds really set you off, along with deepspace. Deepspace writes a dissertation and still offers zero proof of any wrong-doing by Pres Trump or his campaign, or Republicans for that matter. It's okay though. I enjoy rattlling cages.
K2
I guess we are still lost on the two sides of the same argument. When we defend Obamacare, we defend the pillage of our public funds by insurance companies. When we back the republican point of view, we defend the pillage of our public funds. The two sides of the same coin. Something that shows that there is no difference between democrats and republicans. It's all just a show, a combination of a soap opera with a wrestling match. Very entertainning but without value.
How about returning to the past? How about a public health system? Health should not be a business that can be controlled by private interests. If it is then it can become a monopoli and we will suffer for it.
When people die before retirement, it's less conspicuous then the outright cutting of social services. These deaths would be a more covert way of reducing the load on these services and other retirement benefits. So, yes.. They do care about what happens to us.
Bollivar, Fox News has programmed you. They repeated lies so many times that you believed it. Hillary is very smart and would pass any test you gave her. Benghazi, White Water and Emails were nothing but hype by Fox and the Republican Party. We would be much better off with her in office than Trump. I was for Bernie but followed his advise and supported Hillary as an anyone that can beat Trump candidate.
The whole administration and coverage reminds me of a reality TV show. I wonder why that is?
Yes the Republican Party are Fit to Govern; either Somalia or Planet Mars, but not here.
Which room, room #36? what are the chances that after the Washed up lefties who have no balls, tripped over their CornDog and it flew into your profile photo. What is going on in your profile picture? Just imagine Clinton got 500 grand and you only got what, a couple dollar bills for your post?
deepspace outback 2020 roar applause.
Bernie needs others like the both of you to have intelligent debates with in 2020; not Tim or Joe please. I must bookmark this post and come back to fully review the great points made and their corresponding links.
Edward, very well written and very to the point. Another problem: We elected a straight up idiot as president. Why you say? THERE WERE NO CHOICES FOR PRESIDENT. Choice between a turd sandwich and a douchebag. Solution: You have already said it. Do you think Rump could pass a competancey exam, or Hillary? No we made a grave mistake putting a complete idiot in office. Or hillary, a background of very shady business deals like Whitewater. Her emails were way beyound incompetent. Bengazie?
You said it right, but who is listening?
No, the poor don't have any property to take. I assume you mean lower waged workers. In real life, not everyone can work (health, etc.), and there aren't jobs available for all. Democrats ended actual welfare aid, and took the first steps to "reform" Social Security, targeting the disabled. In other words, Democrats most royally screwed the poor. In 2015, Dems in Congress voted to virtually end food stamps to the elderly poor and the disabled -- cut from $115 per month down to $10. Since the Clinton administration, as a reasult of the Democrats' policies, the overall life expectancy of the US poor fell below that of every developed nation. What has been the liberal response?
Clinton winger, right? I urge you to do some online research, including international news media. Since Trump took office in January, there has been a significant buildup of US/NATO troops near the Russian border (esp. in Poland). While the international community sees this as a potential US (Trump) provocation of war against Russia (Putin), the Clinton wing have foolishly rambled on about some kind of Putin/Trump bromance.
A Republican strategy for decades has been to push a bill, fail, and keep bringing it back until they win.Ever since the Dem Party began its rightward drift with the Reagan Democrats of the 1980s, this strategy has proved to be quite successful.
2950-10K: Yeah, was wondering when the puppet would cede Syria to the Putinmaster pulling his strings. So much for his much ballyhooed negotiating "skills." What a pushover! Clearly out of his league, although I'm not sure what league that would be -- maybe a drunk at closing time trying to wheedle one last drink out of the barkeep, unsuccessfully.
Sometimes, though, it's hard to tell whose military is slaughtering the most innocent civilians. Certainly, America is drenched in so much blood that we should just take the white stripes out of the flag and quit pretending we're anything other than a ruthless military empire out to make a quick buck on misery and death.
BTW: Way under the radar....Crooked Donny is ending CIA covert aid for the Syrian Patriots. In other words, Putin indirectly holds the reigns of power over our own CIA....must be extremely humiliating for many CIA employees. A young person working there needs to leak info that will bring down the entire Teapublic, Pence included. Foxaganda and the Koch's are pushing to install Pence.
As I predicted last November, they've waited long enough for citizens not to riot and demand a new election.
Thanks, stopgap. I may also adopt your policy of "Ignore and Replace" (good one), since the shits and giggles derived from responding to their willful ignorance is wearing mighty thin.
What is the recent poll on repeal of the ACA...one out of ten maybe favor it? With this in mind, it takes a lot of arrogant disregard for ones constituents to vote yes on repeal.
I still for the life of me can't wrap my head around the constant right-wing troll drum beat of, "they're all alike," all Corporate shills. I guess we'll have to wait and see how many Democratic Senators vote yes on repeal. LMAO
We already know that only a couple of Senators from the Teabagger Party will vote no......that's a done deal.
We also know that the working class Teabaggers who could get screwed by this vote of yes for repeal, will still vote for many of these same scoundrels again. They can thank Foxaganda for their extreme confusion.
Boxcar -- Our founders tried, but the "first past the post" (whatever that means) has led to the mess you describe. As Thom says, the new democracies after 1860 came up with a better method. They came up with the parliamentary system.
With respect to the offing of JFK, Thom agrees with you that the official version is a farce. However, using the internet as a source seems shaky. A much less shaky analysis comes from two people who did extensive research over several years. Those two people were Lamar Waldron and Thom Hartmann. They documented their work in the book "Ultimate Sacrifice".
Today, Jeff Sessions revived Federal participation in Civil Asset Forfeiture programs and even made it illegal for states and localities to ban it.
Further proof the Repugnicans are all about screwing the poor in favor of the rich, by any means possible.
Old_Curmudgeon: Hah! Excellent! Keep 'em coming.
Edward Dodson: Great input! Your observations and solutions are obviously the result of much contemplation and a joy to read. Unfortunately, such good ideas would require a rewrite of the Constitution and is simply not possible given the political climate in which we exist. Perhaps someday...
patches 604: Also a great point, but even Eisenhower, a decent man who accomplished many good things, carried a bag of right-wing nuttery, albeit nothing like the insanity of today. Afterall, he elevated Nixon to a position he clearly didn't deserve, and the world suffered for it.
Edward: A very similar version of your "solution" was used in Athens 2,500 years ago....the very roots of Democracy! "We the Demos"