DAnneMarc: I didn't know that the "miracle of Fatima" was a UFO incident. But maybe that's what it was. I think a lot of religious people think otherwise....hence: "miracle of Fatima". Maybe it was just swamp gas! ;-}
Some people, largely skeptics, believe that the UFO phenomena is merely a new age religion. It might be for some people...but maybe not for others. Despite all of the known stories, photos, and videos... lots of people refuse to entertain the idea of UFOs. In one of those csetiweb videos it showed a short film footage of a bunch of UFOs flying over the Capitol building in Washington DC back in..I believe it was the 50s or early 60s. Looked like there were about 7 or 8 of them..maybe more flying in formation.
Some people believe that the reason why the government is fighting acknowledgement of UFOs is because of their fear of the public reaction...using what happened when Orson Wells did that "War of the Worlds" broadcast on radio in 1939 and many people didn't catch the warnings that it was just a dramatization and not a real news flash. People thought it was a real invasion of Earth by Martians and went nuts...some people were out shooting cows thinking they were Martians.
Another reason is that maybe our government, and a number of companies, are using the extraterrestrials to gain technology from them in exchange, possibly, for some consideration of reciprocity. Maybe the story of hybridization is true.
Some people say that if these ETs are so advanced in their technology then why all the crashes...our radar systems tend to cause them to crash? Good question...maybe they aren't all that powerful after all. Or maybe there are other ETs that are not as amenable to trade and are not as susceptible to our radars or anything else.
But then again, our government used mass hysteria to their advantage when they created the 9/11 false flag. That resulted in hysteria that they controlled and directed..resulted in pushing people to seek protection from the government.
If we all found out that extraterrestrials, obviously far advanced in technology than we are, ever invaded the Earth then it would show that our government or military is not in control and could not "protect" us.
It's one thing to set up a handful of Arabs as patsies and then, using our obviously superior military powers, to invade their countries and another when our military is far inferior to a more powerful alien force.
It would also have a detrimental effect on religion and even the economy. It could possibly be mass panic just like in 1929. Or, so some think...
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DAnneMarc: I pretty much agree with what you say. When many, or even thousands, of people simultaneously witness something it is very probable that they really did see something. But just how they interpret what they see depends a lot upon what they expect to see based upon a life long exposure to whatever ideas they grew up with. Just like that boatswains mate on that ship believed it was the 2nd coming and the end of the world. Poor guy was very distraught and had to be put on meds to calm him down. The others who saw it may have had ideas of UFOs or whatever. And really, no one knows what it was. But it's clear that the military didn't want it to be public. Why not?
This is a very strong pattern...all throughout this UFO phenomenon...they try to shut people up with threats. If there is nothing to this than why would they go to such lengths to shut people up?
But I'd say that people who actually witness things have to have more credibility than someone like Philip Klass, a well known skeptic and "debunker", who has never seen anything yet imposes his aura of faux superiority over all those many people and claims that they did not see what they all claimed to have seen. And that really goes for any of us.
Unless one actually experiences it...one cannot really claim they know more than the people who do actually experience it. But, of course they will still try to make sense of what they read, hear, or see in videos (ie: second hand exposure) in terms they are comfortable with.
Someone who doesn't believe in religious things will not interpret what they've seen in religious terms. Someone who does believe in religious things will. Someone who believes in the possibility of UFOs will likely see evidence of UFOs. Philip Klass sees swamp gas and the planet Venus..but that is only in his mind's eye...I doubt he would see those things if ever he actually witnessed some of the things he tries to debunk.
Quote Palindromedary:It's funny though because some people have been known to see the Virgin Mary in tree stumps and tortillas. But, I'd find someone who saw some phenomena who may attribute it to an extraterrestrial encounter far more reliable than someone who thinks they see the Virgin Mary in tree stumps. But then, that's me. I know other people are just the opposite.
Palindromedary ~ I don't really care what anyone says they saw. When more than one person says they saw the same thing that always lends tremendous credibility to the story. The more people the more credibility. That is why the Arizona lights and the miracle of Fatima are probably the two best UFO sighting in history. Both were witnessed by thousands of people. One had spiritual overtones; yet, both are quite credible. Be it little green men from Alpha Centauri, the Virgin Mary in a cloud, or a flying spaghetti monster riding a pocadotted unicorn across a rainbow, if you got thousands of eye witnesses you have to give it the benefit of the doubt. Always, the most credibility goes with what I see and hear with my own eyes and ears. Everything else merely warrants further investigation.
Thanks for that link. I'll check it out as soon as I finish typing this; however, I might not have any more time tonight to respond. If so, good night.
Quote DAnneMarc:
For every old man with a story about seeing a mysterious spaceship that disappeared along with all the artifacts and photographs there is another old man with a story about how winged angels appeared before him next to a Pearly Gate in a Chariot of Fire dancing the Macarena.
That may very well be so...when dealing with the unknown...people often project ideas of what they have been subjected to throughout their lives...onto the unexplainable. Here's one instance where this man, while stationed on the aircraft carrier JFK in 1967, said that all electronics on the ship went haywire (radar scopes and crypto communications all went crazy). He heard one man, a boatswainsmate, scream out that this was the 2nd coming and the end of the world. They went out on the side of the ship and look up and saw a giant extremely bright sphere overhead. This was right after sunset so it wasn't the sun. It was completely silent. The captain called general quarters which meant everyone had to go to their GQ stations...so this guy couldn't watch the object anymore. After about another 20 minutes the electronics came back and after about an hour the captain got on the speaker system and told the crew that everything that happened was classified and that they were not to talk about it to anyone. Well, of course, many of the crew members had already talked about it and they even talked to sailors of other ships that monitored the incidence on radar. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0761UJTX6ic
I was stationed in Norfolk at about that time when the JFK was in port and I knew someone on that ship that I visited. I never heard anything then about a UFO...but I don't know if I was there before or after the incident.
It's funny though because some people have been known to see the Virgin Mary in tree stumps and tortillas. But, I'd find someone who saw some phenomena who may attribute it to an extraterrestrial encounter far more reliable than someone who thinks they see the Virgin Mary in tree stumps. But then, that's me. I know other people are just the opposite.
The GOP using mental manipulations from Karl Rove, and I can really see him attacking children, for votes. America knows Rove is a vile human, so why unlease him on the children.
Gore Vidal is correct calling us the United States of Amnesia. The Republican party in my 72 years of life have been for, by, and of the wealthy and multi-national corporations and big banks. There are a few Democrats that really should be Republican and most all in Washington,DC could care less about the poor, elderly, sick, infirm, homeless and starving 70% of America's population. It seems that the Republican party of today would be much happier if my forefathers had lost the Revelutionary War with King George III and we could have work houses and debtors prisons. And yet we as a nation keep re-electing these (excuse the expression) people back in office and we expect them to suddenly change and take notice of we the people. TSK, TSK! Silly American People with severe Amnesia. Wars have been waged for far less provocation and very bloody ones at that on this very soil. Just my opinion, of course.
chuckle8 ~ Before 1856 the only two parties were the Democrats and the Whigs. The Whig party went the way of the dinosaurs and disintegrated. Out of the ashes was born the Republican party we know today. They rallied around a young and charismatic, hot-shot candidate by the name of Abraham Lincoln and took the White House in the following election. The name Whig party has been long forgotten. It just goes to show what can happen when a party loses touch with it's base. Nothing is impervious to the winds of change.
Michael, you've got my sympathies. Here in southwestern Oregon another Canadian company (Jordan Cove) is trying to stick us with an LNG exporting facility. I'm about ready to declare war on Canada! - AIW
Craig B, I couldn't agree more... except on one point. Three strikes is too many; how about two strikes?! If those hacks haven't learned from one accident of the magnitude North Carolinians have just suffered, we need them put out of business for good, with the forfeiture of all their ill-gotten gains!
The very idea of fossil fuel companies owning aquifers is enough to give me nightmares. - AIW
Chucky: That may have worked once but do you seriously think it would work again? And by the way, that was accompanied by lots of violent unrest in the nation...they never really give up anything unless that happens.
After all, voters believed that Obama would change the second term and represent them so they voted for him...and he had a majority in Congress...what did they do? They let the Republicants run all over them. Bad bad Republicants! Shame on you!
I suspect that even if the President was a Democrat and 100% of Congress were Democrats...we still would not see an improvement in representation of the 99%. They'd still sell us out to the 1%. They would just not have anyone they could blame like they do now. They both play the blame game while screwing us all.
I believe that the ruling elite know that most people abhor Repulicants and so their strategy is to make them so repugnant that people will rush to voting for the Democrats. The Democrats are part of the illusion...they are part of the problem...they too are owned by the ruling elite and once elected will continue to do their master's bidding. And they'll continue to blame the Republicans or some other stupid thing...maybe aliens? ;-}
These people know what game they are playing. And despite their public appearances, they wine and dine and rub elbows at fancy parties together...wasting more taxpayer dollars. A wink wink here...a wink wink there...here a wink...there a wink...everywhere a wink wink! Maybe that should be oink oink?
The whole ruse is to keep people believing that there is a chance for change without the people resorting to more radical actions. They'll promise us anything but they will give us Hell. (Promise her anything, but give her Prell...I know...old commercial!)
RMann, you needn't convince me that FOX is garbage. What turned me against Obama wasn't FOX; it was Obama himself. I used to assume kill lists were the work of mafia thugs, not presidents. Yes people are hurting; if Obama really gave a damn about people hurting, he wouldn't be trying to fast-track the TPP. If he gets his way with that, you ain't seen nothin' yet. We'll be in for a world of hurt, like none of us have seen in our lifetimes.
I see FOX on those TV screens at the gym all the time. At every opportunity, I change the channel. - AIW
DAnneMarc: Thanks for those two links...very interesting...some of those pictures were quite puzzling. And how about that...they are now abruptly interrupting videos, right in the middle of them, with commercials.
Ray, I commend you for leaving the GOP. But I hope you're being sarcastic in your reference to "Ronny the Great GOP leader". I hated him as governor of California and saw nothing but trouble in his initial bid for the presidency. Unfortunately my premonition was spot-on. Once that senile actor became president, trouble is exactly what we got. The damage he inflicted on the social fabric of this country lingers on, decades later, with no end in sight. Reagan's deregulation rampage paved the way for many of the problems we're deaing with right now. I hope I'm dead and buried long before another one of these evil clowns gets into the White House. - Aliceinwonderland
I've been away for awhile putting together Youtube clips and comments on my Political Blog and Website. I am from Wisconsin and put together a site exposing Governor Scott Walker and Paul Ryan for the purpose of enlightening Wisconsinites as well as the whole country on how these two corporate tea party shills, posing as Republicans, have been the leading parties the Koch Brothers have been using, and bribing with super pac money, to put the screws to the average american citizen.
I did so with the intent to discredit them with their own words hoping that if I could build enough traffic to the site, enough people will get out the vote to vote these bastards out of office...
Regarding the unemployment issue, I just put up a youtube from my congressman Ron Kind from Wisconsin, who represents Wisconsin's third district and is serving in Washington DC.
Under it, is a link to an article and video of an interview with Governor Scott Walker where in he states he is against the extension of unemployment benifits and, more or less blames the unemployed for being lazy and not looking hard enough for a job in a jobless market.
Pali--ary -- I think historical precedence has shown that overloading the congress with dems (FDR) has been a more successful than 3rd party attempts to influence one of the two mainstream parties (e.g. Teddy Roosevelt).
I am so ashamed that Rob Portman is a Senator from my State. I cannot believe that he would think it is okay to take money from the poor and let the rich keep their ill-gotten gains, so to speak.
It is time for the People to stand up and get their Representatives and Senators to really start working for the People... ALL the People, not the Corporations called "People" by the SCOTUS.
I cannot believe that the GOP thinks that they can screw the American People. As the kid on a commercial says, "Dis-Guss-Ting!
Reply to #1: I agree, it is a very disturbing list. It does reflect the ongoing economic terrorism meant to cause harm to Obama, but he is not the "sole purpose" of this Teapublican austerity madness.
There exist many other targets and motivations including, union busting, private acquisition of government, "we the people," properties at bargain basement prices....Detroit, default deregulation do to insufficient funding of environmental and financial protection agencies, concentration of wealth by the Fascist owners of the entire Republican Party and at least half of the Democrats, etc.
"We economists knew austerity wouldn't work. It was sheer ideology....a view that you have been sinners and you need redemption through pain" ......Nobel Prize-winning economist, Joseph Stiglitz
His fellow Nobel Prize- winning economist, Paul Krugman is in total agreement.
Global warming is nothing! It is now confined to encyclopedia alone. We do not think about it at all. We think it is nothing.
DAnneMarc: I didn't know that the "miracle of Fatima" was a UFO incident. But maybe that's what it was. I think a lot of religious people think otherwise....hence: "miracle of Fatima". Maybe it was just swamp gas! ;-}
Some people, largely skeptics, believe that the UFO phenomena is merely a new age religion. It might be for some people...but maybe not for others. Despite all of the known stories, photos, and videos... lots of people refuse to entertain the idea of UFOs. In one of those csetiweb videos it showed a short film footage of a bunch of UFOs flying over the Capitol building in Washington DC back in..I believe it was the 50s or early 60s. Looked like there were about 7 or 8 of them..maybe more flying in formation.
Some people believe that the reason why the government is fighting acknowledgement of UFOs is because of their fear of the public reaction...using what happened when Orson Wells did that "War of the Worlds" broadcast on radio in 1939 and many people didn't catch the warnings that it was just a dramatization and not a real news flash. People thought it was a real invasion of Earth by Martians and went nuts...some people were out shooting cows thinking they were Martians.
Another reason is that maybe our government, and a number of companies, are using the extraterrestrials to gain technology from them in exchange, possibly, for some consideration of reciprocity. Maybe the story of hybridization is true.
Some people say that if these ETs are so advanced in their technology then why all the crashes...our radar systems tend to cause them to crash? Good question...maybe they aren't all that powerful after all. Or maybe there are other ETs that are not as amenable to trade and are not as susceptible to our radars or anything else.
But then again, our government used mass hysteria to their advantage when they created the 9/11 false flag. That resulted in hysteria that they controlled and directed..resulted in pushing people to seek protection from the government.
If we all found out that extraterrestrials, obviously far advanced in technology than we are, ever invaded the Earth then it would show that our government or military is not in control and could not "protect" us.
It's one thing to set up a handful of Arabs as patsies and then, using our obviously superior military powers, to invade their countries and another when our military is far inferior to a more powerful alien force.
It would also have a detrimental effect on religion and even the economy. It could possibly be mass panic just like in 1929. Or, so some think...
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DAnneMarc: I pretty much agree with what you say. When many, or even thousands, of people simultaneously witness something it is very probable that they really did see something. But just how they interpret what they see depends a lot upon what they expect to see based upon a life long exposure to whatever ideas they grew up with. Just like that boatswains mate on that ship believed it was the 2nd coming and the end of the world. Poor guy was very distraught and had to be put on meds to calm him down. The others who saw it may have had ideas of UFOs or whatever. And really, no one knows what it was. But it's clear that the military didn't want it to be public. Why not?
This is a very strong pattern...all throughout this UFO phenomenon...they try to shut people up with threats. If there is nothing to this than why would they go to such lengths to shut people up?
I think that The Lord Admiral on the Bentwaters incident has a very clear logic about this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b049nkmGg4c 7minutes.
But I'd say that people who actually witness things have to have more credibility than someone like Philip Klass, a well known skeptic and "debunker", who has never seen anything yet imposes his aura of faux superiority over all those many people and claims that they did not see what they all claimed to have seen. And that really goes for any of us.
Unless one actually experiences it...one cannot really claim they know more than the people who do actually experience it. But, of course they will still try to make sense of what they read, hear, or see in videos (ie: second hand exposure) in terms they are comfortable with.
Someone who doesn't believe in religious things will not interpret what they've seen in religious terms. Someone who does believe in religious things will. Someone who believes in the possibility of UFOs will likely see evidence of UFOs. Philip Klass sees swamp gas and the planet Venus..but that is only in his mind's eye...I doubt he would see those things if ever he actually witnessed some of the things he tries to debunk.
Palindromedary ~ I don't really care what anyone says they saw. When more than one person says they saw the same thing that always lends tremendous credibility to the story. The more people the more credibility. That is why the Arizona lights and the miracle of Fatima are probably the two best UFO sighting in history. Both were witnessed by thousands of people. One had spiritual overtones; yet, both are quite credible. Be it little green men from Alpha Centauri, the Virgin Mary in a cloud, or a flying spaghetti monster riding a pocadotted unicorn across a rainbow, if you got thousands of eye witnesses you have to give it the benefit of the doubt. Always, the most credibility goes with what I see and hear with my own eyes and ears. Everything else merely warrants further investigation.
Thanks for that link. I'll check it out as soon as I finish typing this; however, I might not have any more time tonight to respond. If so, good night.
That may very well be so...when dealing with the unknown...people often project ideas of what they have been subjected to throughout their lives...onto the unexplainable. Here's one instance where this man, while stationed on the aircraft carrier JFK in 1967, said that all electronics on the ship went haywire (radar scopes and crypto communications all went crazy). He heard one man, a boatswainsmate, scream out that this was the 2nd coming and the end of the world. They went out on the side of the ship and look up and saw a giant extremely bright sphere overhead. This was right after sunset so it wasn't the sun. It was completely silent. The captain called general quarters which meant everyone had to go to their GQ stations...so this guy couldn't watch the object anymore. After about another 20 minutes the electronics came back and after about an hour the captain got on the speaker system and told the crew that everything that happened was classified and that they were not to talk about it to anyone. Well, of course, many of the crew members had already talked about it and they even talked to sailors of other ships that monitored the incidence on radar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0761UJTX6ic
I was stationed in Norfolk at about that time when the JFK was in port and I knew someone on that ship that I visited. I never heard anything then about a UFO...but I don't know if I was there before or after the incident.
It's funny though because some people have been known to see the Virgin Mary in tree stumps and tortillas. But, I'd find someone who saw some phenomena who may attribute it to an extraterrestrial encounter far more reliable than someone who thinks they see the Virgin Mary in tree stumps. But then, that's me. I know other people are just the opposite.
The GOP using mental manipulations from Karl Rove, and I can really see him attacking children, for votes. America knows Rove is a vile human, so why unlease him on the children.
My only quible with this fine piece is that you think republicans/we/government should "ask" the rich to pay more.
I see the same word "ask" used by other progressive pundits - Paul Krugman for example.
We must TELL the rich to pay more. If we simply "ask", they'll say "NO" or just ignore the request.
Our government has no problem in TELLING the 99% what to pay, why on earth must the government ASK the 1% to pay more?!
Tell them to pay, or I'll tell them where to go!
Gore Vidal is correct calling us the United States of Amnesia. The Republican party in my 72 years of life have been for, by, and of the wealthy and multi-national corporations and big banks. There are a few Democrats that really should be Republican and most all in Washington,DC could care less about the poor, elderly, sick, infirm, homeless and starving 70% of America's population. It seems that the Republican party of today would be much happier if my forefathers had lost the Revelutionary War with King George III and we could have work houses and debtors prisons. And yet we as a nation keep re-electing these (excuse the expression) people back in office and we expect them to suddenly change and take notice of we the people. TSK, TSK! Silly American People with severe Amnesia. Wars have been waged for far less provocation and very bloody ones at that on this very soil. Just my opinion, of course.
chuckle8 ~ Before 1856 the only two parties were the Democrats and the Whigs. The Whig party went the way of the dinosaurs and disintegrated. Out of the ashes was born the Republican party we know today. They rallied around a young and charismatic, hot-shot candidate by the name of Abraham Lincoln and took the White House in the following election. The name Whig party has been long forgotten. It just goes to show what can happen when a party loses touch with it's base. Nothing is impervious to the winds of change.
Michael, you've got my sympathies. Here in southwestern Oregon another Canadian company (Jordan Cove) is trying to stick us with an LNG exporting facility. I'm about ready to declare war on Canada! - AIW
Craig B, I couldn't agree more... except on one point. Three strikes is too many; how about two strikes?! If those hacks haven't learned from one accident of the magnitude North Carolinians have just suffered, we need them put out of business for good, with the forfeiture of all their ill-gotten gains!
The very idea of fossil fuel companies owning aquifers is enough to give me nightmares. - AIW
Chucky: That may have worked once but do you seriously think it would work again? And by the way, that was accompanied by lots of violent unrest in the nation...they never really give up anything unless that happens.
After all, voters believed that Obama would change the second term and represent them so they voted for him...and he had a majority in Congress...what did they do? They let the Republicants run all over them. Bad bad Republicants! Shame on you!
I suspect that even if the President was a Democrat and 100% of Congress were Democrats...we still would not see an improvement in representation of the 99%. They'd still sell us out to the 1%. They would just not have anyone they could blame like they do now. They both play the blame game while screwing us all.
I believe that the ruling elite know that most people abhor Repulicants and so their strategy is to make them so repugnant that people will rush to voting for the Democrats. The Democrats are part of the illusion...they are part of the problem...they too are owned by the ruling elite and once elected will continue to do their master's bidding. And they'll continue to blame the Republicans or some other stupid thing...maybe aliens? ;-}
These people know what game they are playing. And despite their public appearances, they wine and dine and rub elbows at fancy parties together...wasting more taxpayer dollars. A wink wink here...a wink wink there...here a wink...there a wink...everywhere a wink wink! Maybe that should be oink oink?
The whole ruse is to keep people believing that there is a chance for change without the people resorting to more radical actions. They'll promise us anything but they will give us Hell. (Promise her anything, but give her Prell...I know...old commercial!)
RMann, you needn't convince me that FOX is garbage. What turned me against Obama wasn't FOX; it was Obama himself. I used to assume kill lists were the work of mafia thugs, not presidents. Yes people are hurting; if Obama really gave a damn about people hurting, he wouldn't be trying to fast-track the TPP. If he gets his way with that, you ain't seen nothin' yet. We'll be in for a world of hurt, like none of us have seen in our lifetimes.
I see FOX on those TV screens at the gym all the time. At every opportunity, I change the channel. - AIW
DAnneMarc: Thanks for those two links...very interesting...some of those pictures were quite puzzling. And how about that...they are now abruptly interrupting videos, right in the middle of them, with commercials.
Ray, I commend you for leaving the GOP. But I hope you're being sarcastic in your reference to "Ronny the Great GOP leader". I hated him as governor of California and saw nothing but trouble in his initial bid for the presidency. Unfortunately my premonition was spot-on. Once that senile actor became president, trouble is exactly what we got. The damage he inflicted on the social fabric of this country lingers on, decades later, with no end in sight. Reagan's deregulation rampage paved the way for many of the problems we're deaing with right now. I hope I'm dead and buried long before another one of these evil clowns gets into the White House. - Aliceinwonderland
Hi All,
I've been away for awhile putting together Youtube clips and comments on my Political Blog and Website. I am from Wisconsin and put together a site exposing Governor Scott Walker and Paul Ryan for the purpose of enlightening Wisconsinites as well as the whole country on how these two corporate tea party shills, posing as Republicans, have been the leading parties the Koch Brothers have been using, and bribing with super pac money, to put the screws to the average american citizen.
I did so with the intent to discredit them with their own words hoping that if I could build enough traffic to the site, enough people will get out the vote to vote these bastards out of office...
Regarding the unemployment issue, I just put up a youtube from my congressman Ron Kind from Wisconsin, who represents Wisconsin's third district and is serving in Washington DC.
Here is a link to that page https://sites.google.com/site/teapartygovernorplayinggames/home
Under it, is a link to an article and video of an interview with Governor Scott Walker where in he states he is against the extension of unemployment benifits and, more or less blames the unemployed for being lazy and not looking hard enough for a job in a jobless market.
That will screw thiings up even more so the Repblicans should like thie. I don't think the average voter reads anyway.
Pali--ary -- I think historical precedence has shown that overloading the congress with dems (FDR) has been a more successful than 3rd party attempts to influence one of the two mainstream parties (e.g. Teddy Roosevelt).
AIW -- Chronologically, Reagan was Thatcher withour lipstick (the poetry is not nearly as good).
Indeed they are.
These bastards need to be brought to heel. I don't care how it is done. It needs to be done now.
I am so ashamed that Rob Portman is a Senator from my State. I cannot believe that he would think it is okay to take money from the poor and let the rich keep their ill-gotten gains, so to speak.
It is time for the People to stand up and get their Representatives and Senators to really start working for the People... ALL the People, not the Corporations called "People" by the SCOTUS.
I cannot believe that the GOP thinks that they can screw the American People. As the kid on a commercial says, "Dis-Guss-Ting!
Reply to #1: I agree, it is a very disturbing list. It does reflect the ongoing economic terrorism meant to cause harm to Obama, but he is not the "sole purpose" of this Teapublican austerity madness.
There exist many other targets and motivations including, union busting, private acquisition of government, "we the people," properties at bargain basement prices....Detroit, default deregulation do to insufficient funding of environmental and financial protection agencies, concentration of wealth by the Fascist owners of the entire Republican Party and at least half of the Democrats, etc.
"We economists knew austerity wouldn't work. It was sheer ideology....a view that you have been sinners and you need redemption through pain" ......Nobel Prize-winning economist, Joseph Stiglitz
His fellow Nobel Prize- winning economist, Paul Krugman is in total agreement.
We need the voters to take back government from the corps, they will have to live with this mess longer anyway they should have a say.