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Re: KMH comment about turning the radio down when the other woman from IWF comes on.
KMF, I had to laugh and nod my head when I read your comment! I roll my eyes alot when she's on!
Thom, thinking about several of your recent conversations this week with people on the "right," I have such a feeling of elation when there are places of agreement. I feel somehow more alive, more positive --- it is a physical feeling as much as psychological.
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Thanks so much for the book!
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What thread is your 150 threshold published in? Could you tell me, I am studying Kibbutz's and I would like to understand population limitations. I do believe there is a population threshold on systems of governments and I think we are hitting it now on our current system of capitalism and other factors incorporating choice of culture also must be a variable to be considered.
I finally found it: "Come to the dark side, we have cake and ice cream."
I can't read the caption on the Demotivator on today's post. Can anyone tell me what it says?
Riddle me this....if the definition of a terrorist/terrorist group is an individual(s) spreading their beliefs thru acts of violence, how then, is a Neo-Nazi/White Supremecist not considered a terrorist here in the "homeland'? They should all be renditioned and held without due process like the Bushies did to so many world wide. Is it because these cats have pink skin that makes it acceptable? Brown skin folks would've been handled long ago!
A caller had mentioned that they believed it was more culture than religion that was the foundation of the violence. I've always thought that it was about power.
Individuals vying for power use religion as a way to get the people to follow them. We see it happening in our own country with the way the conservatives have used the evangelical Christians to their own devices. I believe it is the same in Islam, it is just that the people there are more desperate, so more deperate measures are taken. If we were to actually lift the people in those countries up, instead of using them for their oil, or in other ways that support our own consumeristic society, I bet violence would go down immensely. Just my two cents. Thanks for a great show.
I liked Hallma as well. I turn the volume down when that other lady comes on from IWF because she seems so unrealized.
April 15, 2009 Judicial Department discovers survelleyance equipment at NSA National Security Agency which was being used for spying on Americans. And that this was being dealt with by the new justice department. Has anyone else heard this?
I heard the above reported several times yesterday and again on KRXA540 this morning.
BTW, I agree that your caller made a very important point that the context is culture, not religion. Very profound!
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Is Karsai a common surname? Could she be related to Hamed Karsai?
Thom, your conversation with Halima Karsai (www.iwf.org) was fascinating. There were so many more subjects about which I'd like to hear her thoughts. It would be so enlightening to have someone like her (or the previous guest) on your show regularly to expand our understanding of her/his point of view (recognizing that she is only one person and cannot speak for all.)
Among other questions, I would like to know why she is affiliated with a conservative group. She sounds open to discussing new ideas...
Our view of the Tea Bag Party we attended was sad. It appealed to the lowest common denominator of racial insecurity. All white no minorities. This group was a rabid anti-Obama administration. They refused to admit it was bush's tax policy they were paying yesterday. It had the feeling of a mass mixed message lynching.
sigh! Would like to see Fox News Channel changed to Fox Republican Propaganda Channel.
Off topic but I think you'll like.
TeaBagging - The Music Video (set to Tom Petty's Free Falling.)
http://www.vibincblog.com/?p=914
Greetings from Nashville Thom!
The problem is in acknowedging the Koran, the Tora, or the Bible as being the "Word of God? When the Liberal/Moderate does this, the Fundamentalist says, Yes, and this is what it says...
It seems to me that it would behoove us all to acknowledge the books to be mythical. As Joseph Campbell teaches, it does not invalidate the myth, (as there is much to learn from our myths).
Hate to be a pest, but I just noticed that there is a note next to the line that gives my name and the date and time of my first post. That note only appears in my first post and in no other post on this page, so far. That line now reads:
B Roll April 16th, 2009, 7:22 am - Your comment is awaiting moderation.
I don't know if that is due to the length of my post or the fact that I have links in it.
By the way, the time stamp reads one hour earlier than PST. I made my post at 8:22 am PST (which I assume is the time zone Portland is in, but the time stamp reads 7:22 am.
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ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh......did you get schooled Thom! Ibrahim exposed your RABID KKKRISTIANIST ZIONIST BIGOTRY! When it comes to religion you are simply disgusting to listen to. undereducated, ignorant, bigoted, completely biased and allied to Zionism you are what Bill Maher says .....foundationally flawed because you believe in the talking snake
no wonder there isn't a mention of Noam Chomsky, Howard Zinn or George Galloway on this show.....you are the same bloodthirsty zionist enablers that exterminates Palestinians and justifies it.
DON'T EVER TALK ABOUT LOVING PEACE, TRUTH, JUSTICE AGAIN
Take the Forest Growing out of your eye before you even start pointing fingers at those with a speck in theirs.
i am SICKENED when i have to hear your glaring BIGOTRY.....you should ASHAMED of yourself!
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That was really weird. I checked for my original post a few minutes ago, and there were no posts on this page. As soon as I posted my message about my original post disappearing, my original post appeared along with my post about my original post and a post by tbone1966. So there are 3 posts on this page, before I post this comment, but the tally at the top of the comment section reads:
2 Responses to “April 16th 2009”
Somethin' ain't workin' right.
What conservative group wants to ignore hard right and nazi terroists?
While Fox most certainly went out of it way to promote this 'Tea Party" mentality, what they ultimately did accomplish was allow the most racist, loudest, and ignorant of our society to collect in one place to spread their vitriol of hate and nastiness. http://mediamatters.org/countyfair/200904150038?show=1
Fox did not even have the courtesy to explain the facts to their viewers, just allowed an unmitigated time to rant and chant. Most of which was not even about taxes but about things that most of the hundreds of dozens of people that showed up have no idea about what to say!
By trying to mainstream the fringe among us is dangerous and Fox, in my opinion is as guilty of any violence that stems from this outrage as much as the person that may commit it.
To the powers that be (but don't roll like I do).
I posted a long refutation of your theory that humans can only work and live cooperatively in groups of 150 people or less. I posted it around 40 minutes before your show began. That post appeared on this page but didn't show up in the tally of the number of posts. Now it doesn't appear at all.
There seems to be a bug in this page. Yesterday a woman complained that her message posted before she was finished. If this post works, I'll post my original message again.
Thom,
You have hit the bullseye of what should be an alternative frame to the Tea-Baggers. Even though they are a clear minority and looked more than goofey at times, they are out there capturing the rage that many feel, astroturf or not. I think the democrats and progressives missed an opportunity to co-opt the right-wing anti-tax message. 95% of America taxpayers received a tax cut on April 15. We should be have been shouting that from the rooftops that and re-framing these protests in the fashion you suggest.
Though progressives really showed little evidence of counter-protest, I believe our movement needs to speak to working people more effectively and be better, more authentic channels for this anger, which will only grow as the world economy worstens (and it will terribly - sad to say.)
RE Lindsay's comments above: Lindsay-- Watch Alex Jones' "Obama Deception" before you think there is time to just let some of the new president's decisions go unchallenged. Some of the folks surrounding Obama are the creators of alot of rotten stuff (like Kissinger and Bzrezinski) and as corrupt and megalomaniacal as folks like Tom Delay and Karl Rove (like Rahm Emanuel and Bernanke).
Plus, we know perfectly well what works to get a nation out of a collapsed bubble economy that becomes a depression -- it was done in the 1930s by FDR. But Obama acts like all we have to do is tweek the existing deregulation/anti-worker/tax-freeElite program instituted by Reagan/BushOne/Clinton/BushTwo and cutback what he refers to as "entitlements" (Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid) of the general population. If we just sit back and say "give Obama some slack, he's new" -- how much more damage will be done? We must not be push-overs to the Corporate Elite and the rich just because Obama is such a pleasant guy and super rhetor.
This is so distressing -- Farmers are committing suicide in large numbers...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/1500-farmers-commit-mass-su...