To clarify, you see Obama not just ramming things through - you see him organizing the community, letting them bond, and teach each other at the local level. You see him getting them on board and coming to the information one on one. Progressives need to be doing what Thom is doing, hauling the water daily. We need to emulate Thom at the water cooler with facts. Lord knows the progressives check and balance each other on facts. If only we would take our community organizing seriously in order to tip the public polls before demanding what we want get ram rodded over our fellow Americans who have no idea what we are talking about. I recall being a moron. I so cherish those that took the time to break things down and recap without being arrogant, because in that absence of knowledge and as an admitted idiot, the arrogance never helped me and only repelled me. Please, show mercy on our ignorant brothers and sisters and take the time to consider where they are coming from and walk with them through the painful steps of disciplined thinking and logic.
Okay- now Al Gore did a conference call with us a few days before Fridays vote and told us Waxman Markey really was a good bill if you read it carefully. Of course we did not read the bill nor get a chance to ask questions. I can tell you though, as someone who has to teach this to adults all day - that we are up against mind boggling ignorance from persons glued on FOX NEWS. I am of the mind that something passed rather than nothing is a monumental enough task and as much as I love the tough progressive 3- they ought to do what I do every day and see the ignorance themselves. I do blame scientists and progressives for not providing more education and materials for which there are nil even on net - though I have found them, I have really had to dig.
Just a quick comment on your opening interview with Dan Gainer? Anyways you were having a very good and interesting conversation, and it seemed like you ran out of things to say when you mentioned the sea ice. I don't really know where that came from, but I think it might help you out in the future if you're able to stay on topic, (and keep your guests on topic).
What happened to your Air America slot? Your blog says your last broadcast was Mar. 1st, I know I've heard you since then. How can you be replaced by the blowhard Ed? I serioucsly miss you and your erudite, sane, calm voice.
today I received EXACTLY the same three paragraphs from Senator Murray. EXACTLY. I had written her a letter giving her my health nightmare story and received that. Thank you for posting this. I now know she, like Senator Cantwell are not reading one word I write. Time for stronger letters and some phone calls.
My letter from Sen Murry
Dear Ms. Novak:
Thank you very much for sharing your personal health care story. I know how important these stories are and I want you to know I appreciate the time you have taken to share them with me. We need to make sure that stories like yours are part of this debate, so the public and other Members of Congress know why health care reform is so desperately needed this year.
In fact, in my opening statement during the markup of the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee work on the health care reform legislation, I shared the story of a young constituent, who lost his mother because our health care system is terribly broken. I have also been telling the story of small business owners who have contacted me urging me to continue fighting for health care reform so they can have a way to provide their employees with health care insurance.
As I continue my work on health care reform this year, I will remember stories like yours and know that this is why I am working so hard for health care reform.
My return letter
Dear Ms. Murray,
I am not interested in employer provided health care. What if I get too sick to work? Employer provided health care can evaporate quicker than you can say, "pink slip". What about "twenty-somethings" that are trying to get an education at an unobtainable cost and struggling for a decade or more trying to find an employer to make the health care "commitment to them". You are not fooling me. Nothing is being said or done to protect people who are not given health care from their employer, which happens all the time, by the way.
Any employer you can name does not qualify to have the authority to decide if I deserve health care. That is the position that supervisors are put in and it is a position plenty abused. As my boss told me when she told me she was reducing my hours under the required number needed for health care benefits, "It's not my job to take care of your family."
No it isn't. Teaching people to rely on employers is telling people that if you are not employed in a profession where employees are tendered health care packages you are replaceable and unworthy of medical health care intervention.
If you continue to vote in such a way as to perpetuate this fallacy concerning the unsubstantiated belief that employment is equal to medical health care access, I will vote against you. I will donate to your opponent. I will continue to ridicule your contribution as loyal to the elite and the republican party.
Brian -- If any man is that bothered that a gay man blew him a kiss, he isn't really straight. If a man is SURE he is straight, he isn't that paranoid about gay men.
I propose we get congress to institute a law saying that any corporation that has lobbyists must make it's books and tax returns public.
I believe this might start a cascade of events that could end in finance reform.
On another subject, can we get someone to enforce that: IF corporations are "persons", THEN they cannot buy and sell other corporations, because that constitutes SLAVERY!!!!?
i can't belive that police would still be raidding gay bars. if there was a problem just talk to the bartender. if someone blew a kiss at a offerer, there is still no reason for violence. what are straight men affard of. i don't know. are some men always so horny that they feel unconfortable around gays
Maybe it's time to let these corporations know in no uncertain terms that we consumers will no longer tolerate all the bribes to congress. After all, where would they be without consumers?
I want to try to respond to your very interesting comments in a timely way (though it's hard to focus on their richness while listening to Thom's show. Even tho I have ADD and enjoy "juggling," I still need to focus to absorb the info.)
I believe that the "filters" are either taught or acquired (I said "preconceived" meaning that filters are in place before a conversation or challenge.) When one has a stake in his world view, his filters keep out any new information that might shake that world view, and therefore, his perception of who he is. I also believe that it is extremely difficult to break through those filters (changing brain patterns or whatever.)
Here's just one example. My intelligent mother was as loyal a Republican as you'd ever find, fundraising for the party and holding nearly every office within that party in county and state politics. She had alot of clout in her time. She grew up learning her political point of view from her parents. Also, she fit John Dean's authoritarian description well.
From the time of Nixon on, I tried to talk with her about the problems with the party. She just didn't want to hear them. She remained loyal to the end of her life.
As I said, she was only one example of someone with a filter that was almost impossible to break through.
Anyway, there is no one so blind as he who WILL not see.
Minnesota Supreme Court affirms Franken won US Senate seat. It’s finally prime time for former SNL writer Al Franken. The Minnesota Supreme Court affirms that Franken won his Senate seat.
Governor Tim Pawlenty said on MSNBC Tuesday that he would sign the certificate if the court ordered him to.
I am looking forward to Thom talking about California starting a state run bank. I like the idea, I think it can work, and have been debating locally a few people about this idea; I would like to hear Thom's response to some of the arguments I have heard, such as: The Bank Of North Dakota was established in 1919- it has a history of service, how can a new Bank Of California establish itself given the very shaky financial situation the state is in? Even if the bank can be started, is it possible that it will make a difference?
Don't we have enough things to blow up here on earth without picking on the moon? I designed a "Don't Shoot the Moon" T-shirt and posted it on my blog:
I fear that we have already lost our Democracy, and it is unlikely that we will ever gain it back. Both parties have been bought and paid for by the corporations. It seems that what we are left with is an illusion of a Democracy.
To clarify, you see Obama not just ramming things through - you see him organizing the community, letting them bond, and teach each other at the local level. You see him getting them on board and coming to the information one on one. Progressives need to be doing what Thom is doing, hauling the water daily. We need to emulate Thom at the water cooler with facts. Lord knows the progressives check and balance each other on facts. If only we would take our community organizing seriously in order to tip the public polls before demanding what we want get ram rodded over our fellow Americans who have no idea what we are talking about. I recall being a moron. I so cherish those that took the time to break things down and recap without being arrogant, because in that absence of knowledge and as an admitted idiot, the arrogance never helped me and only repelled me. Please, show mercy on our ignorant brothers and sisters and take the time to consider where they are coming from and walk with them through the painful steps of disciplined thinking and logic.
Okay- now Al Gore did a conference call with us a few days before Fridays vote and told us Waxman Markey really was a good bill if you read it carefully. Of course we did not read the bill nor get a chance to ask questions. I can tell you though, as someone who has to teach this to adults all day - that we are up against mind boggling ignorance from persons glued on FOX NEWS. I am of the mind that something passed rather than nothing is a monumental enough task and as much as I love the tough progressive 3- they ought to do what I do every day and see the ignorance themselves. I do blame scientists and progressives for not providing more education and materials for which there are nil even on net - though I have found them, I have really had to dig.
Thom,
Just a quick comment on your opening interview with Dan Gainer? Anyways you were having a very good and interesting conversation, and it seemed like you ran out of things to say when you mentioned the sea ice. I don't really know where that came from, but I think it might help you out in the future if you're able to stay on topic, (and keep your guests on topic).
What happened to your Air America slot? Your blog says your last broadcast was Mar. 1st, I know I've heard you since then. How can you be replaced by the blowhard Ed? I serioucsly miss you and your erudite, sane, calm voice.
COLEMAN CONCEDES!
http://politicalblogs.startribune.com/bigquestionblog/?p=1341
COLEMAN CONCEDES!
http://politicalblogs.startribune.com/bigquestionblog/?p=1341
Quark June 30th, 2009, 12:37 pm
‘Just heard over local MN news report during the 3:00 hour (CDT):
COLEMAN CONCEDED
COLEMAN CONCEDED
COLEMAN CONCEDED!!!
He wished Al Franken well.
'Just heard over local MN news report during the 3:00 hour (CDT):
COLEMAN CONCEDED
COLEMAN CONCEDED
COLEMAN CONCEDED!!!
He wished Al Franken well.
response to textlynn's post:
today I received EXACTLY the same three paragraphs from Senator Murray. EXACTLY. I had written her a letter giving her my health nightmare story and received that. Thank you for posting this. I now know she, like Senator Cantwell are not reading one word I write. Time for stronger letters and some phone calls.
My letter from Sen Murry
Dear Ms. Novak:
Thank you very much for sharing your personal health care story. I know how important these stories are and I want you to know I appreciate the time you have taken to share them with me. We need to make sure that stories like yours are part of this debate, so the public and other Members of Congress know why health care reform is so desperately needed this year.
In fact, in my opening statement during the markup of the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee work on the health care reform legislation, I shared the story of a young constituent, who lost his mother because our health care system is terribly broken. I have also been telling the story of small business owners who have contacted me urging me to continue fighting for health care reform so they can have a way to provide their employees with health care insurance.
As I continue my work on health care reform this year, I will remember stories like yours and know that this is why I am working so hard for health care reform.
My return letter
Dear Ms. Murray,
I am not interested in employer provided health care. What if I get too sick to work? Employer provided health care can evaporate quicker than you can say, "pink slip". What about "twenty-somethings" that are trying to get an education at an unobtainable cost and struggling for a decade or more trying to find an employer to make the health care "commitment to them". You are not fooling me. Nothing is being said or done to protect people who are not given health care from their employer, which happens all the time, by the way.
Any employer you can name does not qualify to have the authority to decide if I deserve health care. That is the position that supervisors are put in and it is a position plenty abused. As my boss told me when she told me she was reducing my hours under the required number needed for health care benefits, "It's not my job to take care of your family."
No it isn't. Teaching people to rely on employers is telling people that if you are not employed in a profession where employees are tendered health care packages you are replaceable and unworthy of medical health care intervention.
If you continue to vote in such a way as to perpetuate this fallacy concerning the unsubstantiated belief that employment is equal to medical health care access, I will vote against you. I will donate to your opponent. I will continue to ridicule your contribution as loyal to the elite and the republican party.
Single Payer is the only way.
Kim,
Good idea, but how can we get recipients of corporate largesse to vote for it?
a nother great show thanks tom seee you on twitter i'm peacecompassion
Brian -- If any man is that bothered that a gay man blew him a kiss, he isn't really straight. If a man is SURE he is straight, he isn't that paranoid about gay men.
I propose we get congress to institute a law saying that any corporation that has lobbyists must make it's books and tax returns public.
I believe this might start a cascade of events that could end in finance reform.
On another subject, can we get someone to enforce that: IF corporations are "persons", THEN they cannot buy and sell other corporations, because that constitutes SLAVERY!!!!?
i can't belive that police would still be raidding gay bars. if there was a problem just talk to the bartender. if someone blew a kiss at a offerer, there is still no reason for violence. what are straight men affard of. i don't know. are some men always so horny that they feel unconfortable around gays
Maybe it's time to let these corporations know in no uncertain terms that we consumers will no longer tolerate all the bribes to congress. After all, where would they be without consumers?
B Roll,
Re: Preconceived Filters
I want to try to respond to your very interesting comments in a timely way (though it's hard to focus on their richness while listening to Thom's show. Even tho I have ADD and enjoy "juggling," I still need to focus to absorb the info.)
I believe that the "filters" are either taught or acquired (I said "preconceived" meaning that filters are in place before a conversation or challenge.) When one has a stake in his world view, his filters keep out any new information that might shake that world view, and therefore, his perception of who he is. I also believe that it is extremely difficult to break through those filters (changing brain patterns or whatever.)
Here's just one example. My intelligent mother was as loyal a Republican as you'd ever find, fundraising for the party and holding nearly every office within that party in county and state politics. She had alot of clout in her time. She grew up learning her political point of view from her parents. Also, she fit John Dean's authoritarian description well.
From the time of Nixon on, I tried to talk with her about the problems with the party. She just didn't want to hear them. She remained loyal to the end of her life.
As I said, she was only one example of someone with a filter that was almost impossible to break through.
Anyway, there is no one so blind as he who WILL not see.
That Ft. Worth fracas sounds like it needs to be investigated as a hate crime by the police. Or are the police exempt from Federal hate crime laws?
Minnesota Supreme Court affirms Franken won US Senate seat. It’s finally prime time for former SNL writer Al Franken. The Minnesota Supreme Court affirms that Franken won his Senate seat.
Governor Tim Pawlenty said on MSNBC Tuesday that he would sign the certificate if the court ordered him to.
http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/06/30/minnesota-supreme-court-affirms-f...
I am looking forward to Thom talking about California starting a state run bank. I like the idea, I think it can work, and have been debating locally a few people about this idea; I would like to hear Thom's response to some of the arguments I have heard, such as: The Bank Of North Dakota was established in 1919- it has a history of service, how can a new Bank Of California establish itself given the very shaky financial situation the state is in? Even if the bank can be started, is it possible that it will make a difference?
Don't we have enough things to blow up here on earth without picking on the moon? I designed a "Don't Shoot the Moon" T-shirt and posted it on my blog:
http://ldavick.blogspot.com/2009/06/earth-to-nasa.html
Thank you–I'm looking forward to your show.
My adopted Senator, Bernie Sanders has a great OP-ED in H. P. today.
We Must Stop the Rampant Fraud in the Health Care Industry
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-bernie-sanders/we-must-stop-the-rampan...
Gotta love that guy!
I fear that we have already lost our Democracy, and it is unlikely that we will ever gain it back. Both parties have been bought and paid for by the corporations. It seems that what we are left with is an illusion of a Democracy.
Always good to get an update from Gov. Siegelman, but where's lil' Dicky?
Hey Brian!
Peace to you too!