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>> Loretta July 29th, 2009, 8:56 am
>> We made a huge, huge mistake not electing Dennis Kuccinich.
I love Kuccinich and agree with him most of the time.
However, I can't imagine him ever getting a single big bill through Congress.
Go to http://www.citizensforapubliciption.com and register . . . This Senator Chuck Schumer's et al. trying to reverse the tide on Party of NO!’s and the Blue CROSS DEMs’ de-construction of the Public Option in the Senate Finance Committee. Also call Diane Feinstein and thank her for leading the charge to give another hand out to Health Insurance providers . . .
L Grace,
That's great! One more active voice they have to listen to!
I heard Bernie Sanders on another program make a great point -- we should _ONLY_ be talking with few moderate Republicans who might vote for meaningful healthcare reform.
As it is, Harry Reid had us compromising with THE MOST conservative, anti-affordable healthcare people.
What is Bernake And Geigner telling President Obama to get him to agree to such crazy money management by the Feds. If the Feds are responsible for hoarding the money--- TARP money that should be handed out to working people whose lives have been utterly and completely destroyed by Wallstreet--- then the Obama administration basically lied and cheated to get the stimulus package passed?
It's hard to believe our President Obama would do that.
There is no way that we can defend the current stimulus package to people on the right if the Feds are hoarding the money just so they can give interest to the banks on money they never earned in the first place.
If the Governement is behaving like this with Tarp money, it does make you question how they might handle money meant for single-payer health care doesn't it?
We made a huge, huge mistake not electing Dennis Kuccinich.
"I have a gub!"
Quark,
Wow! It's nice that you remembered our discussion from yesterday.
Well, as I write this, I'm sending post cards to my three main guys and Pres Obama.
Here in Oregon, our "Blue Elephant" on health care seems to be Ron Wyden.
Until now, I've thought of him as a pretty-good guy but like so many, the health industry are is biggest donors.
L
Between Max Baucus (D-Health Insurance Industry) and Diane Feinstein (D-Blue Cross) it looks like a good ride into hell for the American people . . .
Please make sure to call Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi today and thank each one for personally continuing to acceding to the Party of NO! and corporatist DEMs. While both have voting track records that tend to be acceptable, they BOTH prefer compromising through caving to the element that represents the worse possible choice to avoid doing real work for the American people. They seem to go outta their way to insure only dreck hits their respective floors.
[Insert the deity of your choice], I wish BOTH would quit and let someone capable of performing their jobs, actually DO their jobs.
I was born in california and use my birth certificate to cross the border into mexico on a regular basis. The heading of it says Certificate of Live Birth, it does not have the doctor or nurses names on it. I guess this means I'm illegal too. Oh, but I'm white so maybe not.
Re: Healtcare
Though I have a problem with Obama's health care/insurance plan (because It does not appear to do anything about the obscene cost of health care) I wonder why common working class people side with the insurance companies. These people say big government is bad and "can not do anything right", and yet they side with big corporations, who "can't do anything right" either. They have no problem with the CEO gouging the working class, but they hate supporting the government with their tax dollars. Why is it that the working class identify with the rich?
@Loretta:
Rasta is insane and inflicts various similar raving ranting on a number of websites. Rasta's behavior is classic mindless, knee-jerk trolldom. I’d say don’t feed the troll and it will go away but in Rasta’s case only blocking by site management has worked in the past.
Unfortunately, Thom tends toward free expression of all and this will work in our detriment for a while. The flipside is Thom’s policies allows us free reign to express our minds.
How could he defend those leeches!
This Dan character just won't see reason, will he. How would he like to be floudering out there with illness and no coverage, or having to pay huge premiums! If he didn't get dropped!
Bless you, Loretta.
Dear Rasta,
You seem very angry with Thom and continue to use the phrase rabid zionist when describing him. I honestly don't understand how you can label him with this term. Thom continually educates us about the harm many who are thought of as Zionists have dealt out to the US. He has exposed the harmful actions of Greenspan, Goldman Sachs, and many media czars who have been brainwashing the American public for decades.
Are you sure that you have the right person?
Because you have so much energy and passion that you could direct to social change, and because more than likely many of us agree with the changes you want to see take place, I wonder if you would mind listing actions we can take to stop the horrible terror being dealt out to Palestinians.
I don't think Thom is the enemy here, and I also think that you are among friends who agree with many of your convictions. So it would be great if you could help lead us to the actions we need to take to help stop the terror and destruction in Palestine. You have access to many social activists on this site and your ideas would be tremendously welcome as long as they don't wrongly accuse people who are on the same side as you are.
That should read:(free as in Free speech not free beer) not free bear. I had a phone call and don't multitask too well - type talk on the phone.
Regarding there is this parenthetical note: "(That’s right - trust fund babies like Bush and Scaife pay a MAXIMUM 15% federal income tax on their dividend and interest income, thanks to the second Bush tax cut.)" I recently referenced that quote and was challenged on its accuracy. I have been unable to find any support for it.
Did Thom make a mistake? If it is accurate, anyone have a source?
It's been nearly ten years since I switched to SuSE Linux. The Open - sourse/Free Software folks are the answer to the Bill Gates of this world wich has now morphed into Gentoo Linux for me..
Richard Stallman, founder of the Free Software Foundation, should be a guest of Thom's asap. He saw what we now are facing years ago and founded the Free Software movement (free as in Free speech not free bear).
Kudos to Thom for all that he is doing to keep us informed. Blessings to you Thom Hartman.
Fr. Thom Beasley+
MORAL OF MY LAST TWO POSTS, RASTA:
Don't just criticize, DO something to make the world BETTER. (I can't take your posts seriously until/unless you understand this. I will not respond to them or acknowledge them again, either.)
L Grace,
Here's more about volunteering (especially when one doesn't have money):
http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle/51866567.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaE...
Twin Cities area leads nation's big cities in volunteering
"People are giving their time when they can't give their traditional resources" of monetary donations, said Alan Solomont, chairman of the CNCS board.
The study released Tuesday showed that Minneapolis-St. Paul ranked No. 1 among larger metro areas in volunteerism, followed by Portland, Ore., Salt Lake City, Seattle and Kansas City, Mo. Minneapolis-St. Paul has held that top spot for all three years the study has ranked city volunteerism. The state ranked No. 3 in the country, behind Utah and Nebraska. Alaska was fourth and Iowa fifth.
It's Not Hard to Be a Job-Slashing, Pension-Grabbing CEO -- If You're a Sociopath
By Thom Hartmann, Smirking Chimp. Posted July 28, 2009.
Once Again, Idiot Thom Hartmann Doesn't Know What the HELL She's Talking About
sociopaths do what they do and either live in complete denial that they are hurting people or don't realize their actions are hurting people.
psychopaths do what they do knowing full well they are hurting people.....but don't care.
CEOs are the latter.
that said, Thom Hartmann is a rabid zionist who not only excuses the bloodlust of Israeli extermination of the Palestinians but relishes and enables it.
so let's ask Hartmann.....just who in the hell is the psychopath here? she should also add HYPOCRITE to her own curriculum vitae and ALTERNET should be ashamed for giving a platform for such neoNAZIism.
L Grace,
Re your post yesterday:
"Quark,
Thanks. I’ve thought about some sort of vow to donate to the opposition. It’s not in my personality to make threats but I just might. The trouble is I can’t say for sure I’ve I’ll have any money to spare!"
I know what you mean. Money gets thinner and thinner on my side, too. Time is the other leverage you have --- do some phone calling for anolther campaign, actively contact friends, associates, etc., to advocate for a different candidate, etc. To me, time is money, too!
It's cooling a little from the 105 degree weather we had but the heat is making me get a kick out of crazy stuff.
From reading the sites on citizenship it seems like one of the interesting things about the laws is that if you were a kid born abroad to a US citizen who moved to Spain for example, you would be considered a US citizen even though you might never ever set foot in the US during your entire lifetime--probably a smart idea, especially if you need health care--
But then, if you are a US citizen who has never been to the US-
and you have a kid as well, your child might be considered a US citizen too. Under those circumstances there could be generations and generations of US citizens who have never been to the US.
But ....our founding fathers---or later lawmakers, or whoever created the rest of the requirements---decided that wasn't such a great idea. They added the sections regarding how long a US citizen must have lived in the US at various points in their lives which must include some time after fourteen years old if I'm reading that right.
I could be totally wrong but it looks to me like If you gain US citizenship from being born abroad you have to come back and live in the United States for a period of time in order to pass US citizenship on to your next generation.
Pretty random and wild in a way. It kind of makes a person realize how random nationality really is and how totally ridiculous the birthers argument is. But it's pretty interesting to learn about citizenship as a byproduct.
Those founding fathers--- they were thinking of everything--
i think it is sad that the ruling class claims to be for we the corporation: have the right of a god being a individual but with no liability.