OK you got me. I was operating off of memory. Now you know why I get nervous in this crowd. Too smart for me. Actually to firm this up, Bette Davis said as the character Margo Channing: "Fasten your seat belts, it's going to be a bumpy night." I probably won't make this mistake again. None the less the meaning I intended for Gerald is intact. I thought someone would correct me over the wrong title I gave Ravi Batra's latest book. I muffed it too. I conflated and mixed his main title with his sub-title. "The New Golden Age" is what I should have written. Now we begin again renewed and corrected. I guess we all should fasten our seat belts ! I can still hear Bette the way she punched the word bumpy. That is what I remembered most accurately. Thanks Quark, the overlaps and many things we apparently share in common is freaky but cool.
It is clear that what is needed on Barack Obama’s “economics team” is someone like Dr. Ravi Batra to shake things up. That won’t happen, since shaking the Wall Street brain trust is likely to cause traumatic “brain” damage. Economics is, after all, an imprecise “science” where there as many ideas as people, which is probably why Barack Obama does not feel comfortable with pursuing a major change of course by taking advise from a real economist—especially one who deals in nuts and bolts instead of stock market tricks. Innovative policies can either right the ship, or sink it, which is maybe why Obama prefers to depend on the advice of Wall Street “experts.” The problem is that these “experts” only know the variables of that cause the stock market to go up, or down, and how much money they or their friends will make, or not make; sometimes that variable can merely be an off-hand statement that strikes chaos in the minds of investors. Wall Street is far too conservative when it comes to governing itself or its activities; on the other hand, it is far too reckless in playing with people’s money as if it was a game of Monopoly. The funny thing is,most of the money they are playing isn’t even real anyways.
Now a comment concerning the caller on Thursday who wanted medical specialists to make millions, while primary physicians should exist as bottom feeders. The AMA was founded in 1847 for the express purpose of making the medical profession “worthwhile”—that is, to make money for doctors. That is why they restrict the number of doctors—if the pool of doctors is too big, then doctors allegedly will make less money. The AMA has been permitted to accredit medical schools; schools that enroll over the prescribed limit of medical students risk loss of accreditation. Why the AMA has been allowed to be the sole judge of accreditation and licensing procedures when its intent has nothing to do with quality but everything to do with quantity for purely monetary considerations is something that health care reform needs to address. By deliberately restricting the number of doctors, the AMA in fact reduces the quality of care.
One other thing on a local (no, not “Glenn Beck Day” where Beck will receive the key to his hometown of Mount Vernon, WA). Last June, an unarmed Snohomish County man named Nile Meservey was fatally shot by an as yet unnamed Everett police officer, apparently for the crime of being drunk. Meservey was leaving a restaurant, where apparently “concerned” patrons notified police when he got into his car. The officers boxed in Meservey with their patrol cars; one of the officers tased him while he was inside the car, instigating a muscle reaction that caused the car to lurch forward. Mesevery was then shot seven times, dying at the scene.
This man was drunk, but is this sufficient reason for police to use lethal force of an excessive nature? It was clear that he did not intend to hurt anyone. Police at the scene lied in their subsequent report, claiming that he had hit a woman with the car; the woman has denied this occurred, saying that she tripped herself. Everett police have made no effort to investigate the actions of the officers at the scene, and the county medical examiner, Norman Thiersch—who has not called for a police inquest in ten years—stated that “there’s no purpose behind an inquest.” He may be right, if for the wrong reasons; I have lived in this state for almost twenty years, and I have never heard of an inquest jury declaring a death caused by a cop “unjustified”—to be expected, since inquest questions are loaded in favor of police. In the meantime, the family of the murdered man is hoping a $15 million lawsuit will entice answers.
Rather than seek approval from Congress to hold some 50 Guantanamo detainees indefinitely, the administration has decided that it has the authority to hold the prisoners under broad-ranging legislation passed in the wake of Sept. 11, 2001. Former President George W. Bush frequently invoked this legislation as the justification for controversial legal actions -- including the NSA's warrantless wiretapping program.
Gerald, I'm going to venture that you haven't read Ravi's latest book: "The Coming Golden Age". Remember what I said about Americans needing to get to the cliffs edge before acting? Unfortunately we apparently need another dose of salts to wake up financially. Even the best economists sound a little like those who read the stars and give our horoscopes. Like Thom likes to say: "we'll see". Hang on meanwhile, because, as Betty Davis famously said, "it's going to be a bumpy ride."
Thom, If you and Louise are in Portland right now you both might love to hear Dorianne Laux at Reed college at 6:30 pm tonight. She is the people's poet for our spirit.
When he walks by an old drunk or a stumbling vet
he stops to rummage in his pockets for change
or a stray bill, remembers the cold urge
of fifteen years ago that kept his joy trapped
in a bottle or the stained nub of a roach
passed from one set of cracked lips to another.
Their creased palms open like scrolls
toward the bright coins of light, stamped like chips
of winter barter for the scraps and opiates of this city.
He won't ask and doesn't care
what his money is exchanged for: a blanket,
a pair of wrecked shoes, the harsh sharpened
glare of a needle, or a pack of smokes.
Who can calculate the worth
of one man's pain? what they need, he figures,
can't be more than what he owes.
It's awfully easy to get depressed. Maybe the "cycles" on the Mayan, Hopi, Buddhist and others' metaphoric wheels of time really DO observe that each new cycle starts out with a hopeful age of humans and degenerates over the millenia to a corrupted culture and world, to its doom (to restart a NEW hopeful cycle.) Can you really "fix" such a problem? Or is this all a dream?
I don't know about everyone else but I'm always trying to "read between the lines" when Ravi talks. You know, we're getting closer to 2012 every day. LOL
Thom's third hour show with Ravi Batra (sp) was great.
If I heard him correctly, the bailouts will hurt the economy. He also said that we should fix the economy first before we try to fix health care. How can we fix the economy if the bailouts have hurt the economy?
He also said that we should first bring back manufacturing jobs through the auto industry. I say we should start with mass transit and the manufacturing of the light rail system throughout the country and efficient buses. Plus, we should move forward on energy efficiency jobs. Rollback the obscene taxcuts for the rich and for American corporations.
How can the economy be fixed with the prediction that we will have another financial meltdown in the next six to eighteen months? I see 90% of Americans wailing at the wailing walls that will be built with the definite financial meltdown.
The rich and the powerful will be extremely happy with the enslavement of 90% Americans. These will be glorious times for the powerbrokers.
Thanks to Dr. Batra,
My middle class family got out of the equity market with our retirement money in Jan. 2008 when the market (DOW) was around 11,500. Thanks to the stimulus package passed by the Congress we traded a lousy Chevy Blazer in for a Prius using the Cash for Clunkers program. Finally, thanks to the Obama administration, workers are finishing up our new geo-thermal heating/cooling system tomorrow, because of a 30% tax credit with no limits. That amounts to 10k of savings. The only two problems: 1. I wish our Prius was made in the U.S.A.
2. You had to have had the money to spend in order to benefit Too many people didn't listen to Dr. Batra and therefore do not have the where- with-all in these tough times. Cash is King in a recession and timing is everything sometimes.
To refuse to cooperate with a census worker is not only illegal but is likely to result in the loss of a great deal of money for your state of residence. Moron.
News today: Beck's home town says NO to his hate speech.
.Mount Vernon, WA, home of Glenn Beck has a mayor who thought he'd get some good press by giving Beck the Key to the City.
What he got was a City Council that voted 7-0 to say no, they don't want anything to do with hate talk: "Mount Vernon City Council is in no way sponsoring the Mayor's event on Sept. 26, 2009, and is not connected to the Glenn Beck event in any manner."
So the mayor has to have a private reception (tickets $25) with the press excluded ... both the mayor and Beck are afraid to face the public:
@Annette: Google "Project for New America" Iraq 1999 and you get 2,620,000 opportunities to read all about America's plans to invade Iraq before the G. W. Bush Administration took office.
US Govt May Fail In 5 To 10 Years -
Interview with Marc Faber -
By Bloomberg News
Click to view
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article23560.htm
Quark,
OK you got me. I was operating off of memory. Now you know why I get nervous in this crowd. Too smart for me. Actually to firm this up, Bette Davis said as the character Margo Channing: "Fasten your seat belts, it's going to be a bumpy night." I probably won't make this mistake again. None the less the meaning I intended for Gerald is intact. I thought someone would correct me over the wrong title I gave Ravi Batra's latest book. I muffed it too. I conflated and mixed his main title with his sub-title. "The New Golden Age" is what I should have written. Now we begin again renewed and corrected. I guess we all should fasten our seat belts ! I can still hear Bette the way she punched the word bumpy. That is what I remembered most accurately. Thanks Quark, the overlaps and many things we apparently share in common is freaky but cool.
DDay,
Re: one of your last posts yesterday.
Actually, Bette Davis said, "Hang on. It's going to be a bumpy NIGHT!"
About 1/4 of the way down the page:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0042192/quotes
(This has always been one of my favorite lines.)
A question for Bernie:
Why must these "triggers" work in only one direction: "public only if private fails"?
Why not pass an UNRESTRICTED Public Option (that ANYONE can join) with a "trigger" of putting its repeal on the November 2011 ballot?
If after 20 months, if the Public Option hasn't reduced costs and/or improved quality, let voters decide if they want to go back to the old system.
It is clear that what is needed on Barack Obama’s “economics team” is someone like Dr. Ravi Batra to shake things up. That won’t happen, since shaking the Wall Street brain trust is likely to cause traumatic “brain” damage. Economics is, after all, an imprecise “science” where there as many ideas as people, which is probably why Barack Obama does not feel comfortable with pursuing a major change of course by taking advise from a real economist—especially one who deals in nuts and bolts instead of stock market tricks. Innovative policies can either right the ship, or sink it, which is maybe why Obama prefers to depend on the advice of Wall Street “experts.” The problem is that these “experts” only know the variables of that cause the stock market to go up, or down, and how much money they or their friends will make, or not make; sometimes that variable can merely be an off-hand statement that strikes chaos in the minds of investors. Wall Street is far too conservative when it comes to governing itself or its activities; on the other hand, it is far too reckless in playing with people’s money as if it was a game of Monopoly. The funny thing is,most of the money they are playing isn’t even real anyways.
Now a comment concerning the caller on Thursday who wanted medical specialists to make millions, while primary physicians should exist as bottom feeders. The AMA was founded in 1847 for the express purpose of making the medical profession “worthwhile”—that is, to make money for doctors. That is why they restrict the number of doctors—if the pool of doctors is too big, then doctors allegedly will make less money. The AMA has been permitted to accredit medical schools; schools that enroll over the prescribed limit of medical students risk loss of accreditation. Why the AMA has been allowed to be the sole judge of accreditation and licensing procedures when its intent has nothing to do with quality but everything to do with quantity for purely monetary considerations is something that health care reform needs to address. By deliberately restricting the number of doctors, the AMA in fact reduces the quality of care.
One other thing on a local (no, not “Glenn Beck Day” where Beck will receive the key to his hometown of Mount Vernon, WA). Last June, an unarmed Snohomish County man named Nile Meservey was fatally shot by an as yet unnamed Everett police officer, apparently for the crime of being drunk. Meservey was leaving a restaurant, where apparently “concerned” patrons notified police when he got into his car. The officers boxed in Meservey with their patrol cars; one of the officers tased him while he was inside the car, instigating a muscle reaction that caused the car to lurch forward. Mesevery was then shot seven times, dying at the scene.
This man was drunk, but is this sufficient reason for police to use lethal force of an excessive nature? It was clear that he did not intend to hurt anyone. Police at the scene lied in their subsequent report, claiming that he had hit a woman with the car; the woman has denied this occurred, saying that she tripped herself. Everett police have made no effort to investigate the actions of the officers at the scene, and the county medical examiner, Norman Thiersch—who has not called for a police inquest in ten years—stated that “there’s no purpose behind an inquest.” He may be right, if for the wrong reasons; I have lived in this state for almost twenty years, and I have never heard of an inquest jury declaring a death caused by a cop “unjustified”—to be expected, since inquest questions are loaded in favor of police. In the meantime, the family of the murdered man is hoping a $15 million lawsuit will entice answers.
Quark, I am more disappointed than depressed. We are a country divided.
I will be away from the computer for a few days. Keep up the good fight!
I have just heard that Americans are stockpiling guns and ammunition at a record pace.
Is a civil war near?
I missed you guys too, but I've been reading your wonderful conversations and loving them. warm wishes
Obama will bypass Congress to detain suspects indefinitely
http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/09/obama-will-bypass-congress-to-detain-su...
Rather than seek approval from Congress to hold some 50 Guantanamo detainees indefinitely, the administration has decided that it has the authority to hold the prisoners under broad-ranging legislation passed in the wake of Sept. 11, 2001. Former President George W. Bush frequently invoked this legislation as the justification for controversial legal actions -- including the NSA's warrantless wiretapping program.
This is change we can believe in?
That was: me too....Loretta! I was so excited that I flubbed up again. You'all are so intimidatingly smart that I get nervous sometimes.
Me to Loretta.
Gerald, I'm going to venture that you haven't read Ravi's latest book: "The Coming Golden Age". Remember what I said about Americans needing to get to the cliffs edge before acting? Unfortunately we apparently need another dose of salts to wake up financially. Even the best economists sound a little like those who read the stars and give our horoscopes. Like Thom likes to say: "we'll see". Hang on meanwhile, because, as Betty Davis famously said, "it's going to be a bumpy ride."
Loretta,
HI! 'Glad to see your post. I missed you.
CX,
Meant to say"Hindu", not "Buddhist." (Had that wonderful website Brian Hayes menitoned - URL mentioned in previous post - on my brain.)
Thom, If you and Louise are in Portland right now you both might love to hear Dorianne Laux at Reed college at 6:30 pm tonight. She is the people's poet for our spirit.
http://www.reed.edu/visiting_writers/index.html
Here is a poem from her book "Smoke"
Figures
When he walks by an old drunk or a stumbling vet
he stops to rummage in his pockets for change
or a stray bill, remembers the cold urge
of fifteen years ago that kept his joy trapped
in a bottle or the stained nub of a roach
passed from one set of cracked lips to another.
Their creased palms open like scrolls
toward the bright coins of light, stamped like chips
of winter barter for the scraps and opiates of this city.
He won't ask and doesn't care
what his money is exchanged for: a blanket,
a pair of wrecked shoes, the harsh sharpened
glare of a needle, or a pack of smokes.
Who can calculate the worth
of one man's pain? what they need, he figures,
can't be more than what he owes.
Gerald Socha,
It's awfully easy to get depressed. Maybe the "cycles" on the Mayan, Hopi, Buddhist and others' metaphoric wheels of time really DO observe that each new cycle starts out with a hopeful age of humans and degenerates over the millenia to a corrupted culture and world, to its doom (to restart a NEW hopeful cycle.) Can you really "fix" such a problem? Or is this all a dream?
Creation and it's complement, entropy.
Gerald Socha,
Wow --- it's a long list. Somehow we need to chop it up into small bites.
DDay,
I don't know about everyone else but I'm always trying to "read between the lines" when Ravi talks. You know, we're getting closer to 2012 every day. LOL
Thom's third hour show with Ravi Batra (sp) was great.
If I heard him correctly, the bailouts will hurt the economy. He also said that we should fix the economy first before we try to fix health care. How can we fix the economy if the bailouts have hurt the economy?
He also said that we should first bring back manufacturing jobs through the auto industry. I say we should start with mass transit and the manufacturing of the light rail system throughout the country and efficient buses. Plus, we should move forward on energy efficiency jobs. Rollback the obscene taxcuts for the rich and for American corporations.
How can the economy be fixed with the prediction that we will have another financial meltdown in the next six to eighteen months? I see 90% of Americans wailing at the wailing walls that will be built with the definite financial meltdown.
The rich and the powerful will be extremely happy with the enslavement of 90% Americans. These will be glorious times for the powerbrokers.
Traffic here seems to dry up when Ravi is on. Is everyone listening in rapt attention? or Are their eyes glazed over with boredom?
Done Quark! (the petition) thanx
A PETITION TO PRESIDENT OBAMA FOR NUCLEAR WEAPONS ABOLITION
Sign petition here:
http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/302/t/6687/petition.jsp?petition_KE...
Thanks to Dr. Batra,
My middle class family got out of the equity market with our retirement money in Jan. 2008 when the market (DOW) was around 11,500. Thanks to the stimulus package passed by the Congress we traded a lousy Chevy Blazer in for a Prius using the Cash for Clunkers program. Finally, thanks to the Obama administration, workers are finishing up our new geo-thermal heating/cooling system tomorrow, because of a 30% tax credit with no limits. That amounts to 10k of savings. The only two problems: 1. I wish our Prius was made in the U.S.A.
2. You had to have had the money to spend in order to benefit Too many people didn't listen to Dr. Batra and therefore do not have the where- with-all in these tough times. Cash is King in a recession and timing is everything sometimes.
To refuse to cooperate with a census worker is not only illegal but is likely to result in the loss of a great deal of money for your state of residence. Moron.
You can read about the census worker's hanging at www.dustytrice.com
Thank you Randy,
That news puts a smile on my face. God Bless the Mt Vernon City Council. I'll bet that mayor has a fun time at City Council meetings.
News today: Beck's home town says NO to his hate speech.
.Mount Vernon, WA, home of Glenn Beck has a mayor who thought he'd get some good press by giving Beck the Key to the City.
What he got was a City Council that voted 7-0 to say no, they don't want anything to do with hate talk: "Mount Vernon City Council is in no way sponsoring the Mayor's event on Sept. 26, 2009, and is not connected to the Glenn Beck event in any manner."
So the mayor has to have a private reception (tickets $25) with the press excluded ... both the mayor and Beck are afraid to face the public:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2009930957_apwaglennbeck...
@Annette: Google "Project for New America" Iraq 1999 and you get 2,620,000 opportunities to read all about America's plans to invade Iraq before the G. W. Bush Administration took office.