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Well, Trumpster's you have had 4 years to see the light. You are now officially the biggest losers. It is bad enough, that you were stupid enough to elect him. But you believed daily blatant lies for 4 years. You watched as 52 Senators voted against impeachment (the only remedy for a sitting POTUS that has comitted crimes) although they admitted that he had committed crimes. Then you believed him when he claimed that the Mueller Report had exonerated him. Which even the redacted version (only one released by his Toddy Bill Barr) did not. Trump has lied to you every day. Yesterday he said that our Covid numbers were so low (in fact, highest in the world) because his wall had stopped the Mexicans. He has added 3 miles to a 1950 mile border. The Mexicans no longer want to come here, have closed the border and the only way that you can go there is by illegally crossing. The economy is in the tank. He has destroyed the Social Security funding. The Pandemic is totally out of control. Foreign relations are a joke. His medical plan is still coming, So is infrastructure week. Plus the check from Mexico for the wall. By the way, no other countries will let us in so you are stuck here. But he has made tons of money with his resorts. Where he does not just collect off of our government (your tax dollars). Corporations and foreign countries funnel bribes to Trump through his resorts. If he should win, you have given him a get out of jail for free card. It will take years, but if he loses he will be in courts for the rest of his life. Hopefully jail, but our judicial system is hopelessly broken. Do not feel too bad if he loses, you always have Don Jr running in 2024, with Ivanka as VP. Then Eric, followed by Baron. Putin will still be around to help you get them elected.
Obama vs Trump economy.
["I am amazed that this is a question!"]
Interesting concept, "responsibility" to vote. . with consequences. . like a fine? Or incentives, like a tax-break? Never happen though.
["Agreed. Not just the "right", the responsibility."]
One would think so, and points out my observation, that every American believes this is top of the list, unless they have a "convenient" argument the R-party uses.
While the right to vote will always be on the top of individual rights, it seldoms come to mind, because 1) we vote (sometimes) less than once a year, and 2) we assume it's automatic. There is no "right to vote". . (https://www.thomhartmann.com/blog/2020/10/because-we-dont-have-right-vote) and people don't understand this just like they always assumed majority vote always wins, state electors have to follow the state's majority vote, and many other traditions not written into law, that sadly we're learning due to the evil party on the right, who will cheat, lie, win at any cost.
Unfortunately like so many mis-interpreted or absent constitional rights/laws, it takes a "constitutional amendment" . . i.e. 2/3 of Congress + 3/4's of the states to ratify a constitutional amendment, and while the R-party of "originalists" would never allow this when it works against their agenda, we have to have end-around laws passed in states, like the National Popular Vote Interstate Pact to fix this ancient, false Electoral College. I would like to hear Thom's take on how we could pass a Federal (some states won't cooperate) law that protect every person's right to vote, at the consequence of Federal fines and imprisonment.
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Why do we use nice intellectual names for Trump? He is a Dictator!
The more disgusting and stupid Trump acts, it seems the more his supporters identify with him. Clearly a portion of society thinks this is how you insult their version of the "elites". There are also those who vote only their pocketbooks or the abortion issue. There is no critical thinking involved, and when you add these folks together you have maybe 40% of the voters.
The words fascist as well as socialist have been bandied about in so many iterations, I question how useful it is use them anymore. I am for less labels and intellectual discussion and more for what was in the letter described above: "We must encourage coalitions organized across differences of race, class, gender, religion and caste, while respecting the perspectives and experiences of others. We need to reveal and denounce any and all connections between those in power and those vigilante and militia forces using political violence to destabilize our democracies." Once we coalesce further and win enough seats, we can try to control the corporations and balance the American equation. It is time; the climate, health, and unequal justice crises won't wait.
Betty, try this link https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/01/democracy-fascism-global-trump-biden-election
No fan of the Guardian I'm afraid
Sorry but you have taught me too well. What is the source of the open letter, may I read it for myself, do those who wrote it have credentials other than opinion?
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The Trump Train jumped the tracks.
Jump on the Trump Train
https://youtu.be/dKFnDZtzl0c
IMHO, we need to expect more from voting in American democracy:
NO taxation without PROOF of representation! ...
Every voter deserves to know that their vote has been counted correctly in the final tabulation.
The government demands we prove our income to the penny every year, we pay taxes from our paychecks twice a month. It's reasonable to demand that just once every 2 years, that we each get proof that our vote has been counted correctly. That's not too much to ask, or demand in our voting and from our government. Consider this: No one reading this knows for sure if their vote has been counted correctly, ever. There is no way to know this with any of the current voting systems. But it is possible. If voting were as sacred as money in this country, we could know our votes were counted correctly, and most importantly, all votes would be respected. Our banking systems are able to process billions of dollars every day, the transactions are secure, private, accurate, verifiable, auditable, and accurate to the penny - every day. The life blood of our economy is money, and we handle it effectively every day.
We can and must have the same process for our sacred votes - the life blood of democracy. It is time to put "teeth" into our voting process. Require the governent to prove to an individual that their vote has been counted correctly in the final tabulation. Failure by the government to do so causes a penalty to the government - that individual does NOT have to pay taxes until the next election. This "get tough behind our voting" would make governments shape up, and would also substantially boost voter participation. So, we have the technology to meet and exceed all issues in our voting, as we see the banks do all of this every day, with no fraud, suppression, intimidation, plus accuracy to the penny and private information known only to the account holder and the bank's computer.
Time to do this - for the life blood of our democracy.
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Or it is Joe. Last election was very close and somehow they managed to call it by 11 PM RMT. But this one will go on for weeks and months. The next 2 months 20 days will be pure chaos. I heard that Costco is a mob scene again. They say it is because the virus is surging. It also has the election results factored in.
As Bill Maher closed his show on Friday "I'll see you on the other side".
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Yeah, this election should not even be close. And it wouldn't be if it's actually conducted freely and fairly, if voters aren't illegally purged from the rolls, if whole categories of ballots aren't rejected en masse for frivolous reasons like slightly mismatched signatures or (intentionally) slow postal delivery, and if all votes are ultimately counted regardless of how many days or weeks it might take (until the certification date) and in spite of all the other voter-suppression tactics dreamed-up by freaked-out Republicans going down with the ship. Accuracy is more important than speed.
Unfortunately, in American-style "democracy," pollsters and the media normally can't or won't factor into their prognostications the true magnitude of corruption, massive election fraud, and all-out cheating in every way possible by one major political party and its authoritarian leader desperately trying to cling to power in the face of dwindling odds. No one on the planet today doubts which party that is except of course its own brainwashed cult members.
The only solution to Fox News and right wing radio is for the other networks to report on the false lies and methods that Fox and others use. The only media that really pushes back is Mediamatters.org. It is just getting worse with Breitbart, Sinclair Broadcasting and a host of others. To me it is blatantly obvious how bad it is. If I watch Fox News (about 1 time per year) I am outraged in a matter of minutes at the techniques and lies that it employs. I guess that some are blind. Meanwhile, they are making Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity and many others super wealthy.
This election should not even be close. The Republican Party lies constantly. It is lead by the greatest liar in history. Some have called Trump followers deplorables. I think that gullible is a much better discription. They know that he lies. And they double, triple, down on it. The right wing media lies to them constantly and they love it. It is comforting to them. Some will say that both sides lie. It is not even close. There is no ligitimate comparison. Post one if you think that there is.
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If Trump wins what have the Trumpsters suceeded in doing? Keeping him out of jail. Cost? Social Security for one.
"During President Barack Obama’s final year in office in 2016, the US deficit was $585 billion. Here’s a look at how it has changed under Trump:
2017: $665 billion
2018: $779 billion
2019: $984 billion
2020: $3.7 trillion"
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