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  • The Thom Hartmann Program - Aug 30th 2018   5 years 46 weeks ago

    Hi DianeR,

    Just got home ...a good day!

    Don't get me started on Moonbeam and the train to nowhere.

    About the fires

    https://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/fires/article221594715.html

    Came home to the Avanatti news..Ha Ha! I bet he even wants due process.

    I still have stuff to do..so have a great evening ....till tomorrow!

  • The Thom Hartmann Program - Aug 30th 2018   5 years 46 weeks ago

    Hey HotCoffee, Hope your day went well.

    I have been looking at the possible causes of the CA fires and the electrical infrastructure seems to pop up often as the cause.

    I wonder how much could have been buried with the $80,000,000,000 peed away on the choo-choo train to nowhere.

    Gotta love governor Moonbeam.

  • The Corporate Conquest of America   5 years 46 weeks ago

    Why not tax corporations in a progressive manner? It would discourage monopolies, help the debt and be good for mom and pop.

  • Who rejected United States-North Korea peace talks?   5 years 46 weeks ago

    Hmm makes me wonder if something is brewing.

    John | Redwood City Personal Trainer

  • Private Health Insurer Calls itself Medicare to Take Advantage of You (w/Alex Lawson)   5 years 46 weeks ago

    Thank you so much for this information. I was just going to call today to join an Advantage program through Humana. They offer so much, including Silver Sneakers, and I thought I was going to save a lot of money in the process. However, I would have hated to have something happen and be denied coverage or have to pay for procedures not covered. Not sure why I was contacted for the program as I am 70...I am very healthy and have not been sick much, so that must be it.

    I love your show and I trust you and the people you choose to be on your program. I know the information on your show is the truth and is not biased.

  • The Thom Hartmann Program - Aug 30th 2018   5 years 46 weeks ago

    Good Morning DianeR,

    Al Gore turned out to be a total fraud.

    I won't be home today....I'll try to check in tonight.

    Enjoy another beautiful day!

  • The Thom Hartmann Program - Aug 30th 2018   5 years 46 weeks ago

    HotCoffee, good morning.

    The article about hollywood is a hoot. A bunch of individuals who spend their day admiring their own shadow. I particularly like the Leonardo DeCaprio types who preach globull warming in a speech they gave arriving in their own private jet from halfway across the world. We can leave Al Gores home which uses 20 times the electricity of an average home out of the mix because that asswagon is a total phony and the world is on to him.

    The Trump hate is fun to watch. I so enjoy listening to the leftie bobbleheads call the republicans the party of hate. They obviously have never looked in a mirror or listened to one of their own shows.

    Speaking of hateful, ungracious, elitist snobs, direct your attention to Michelle Obama who was never proud of her country until her husband was elected president, is now out pushing her book. If the leftie/socialists want to talk racist, Michelle Obama should be their king.

    later,

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  • The Thom Hartmann Program - Aug 30th 2018   5 years 46 weeks ago

    There truly is no point in debating intellectually dishonest trolls who have been so conditioned by right-wing disinformation that they willingly and stubbornly refuse to research actual, widely accepted, extensively peered-reviewed hard evidence (as in the case of human-caused climate change, for instance), a small fraction of which has been humbly (?) provided and archived by yours truly on this long, long thread, like it or lump it. Valuable information is now all in one place -- some of the more important stuff posted a few times on different pages to match ongoing news events -- for easy access through the various scientific articles and, especially, the links contained therein to facilitate a deeper dive, for which we are individually responsible for performing to avoid spouting off gross, easily verifiable ignorance ... if only one were to do the homework.

    Absolutely, the science is nonpartisan! Although I'm certainly not, and neither is anyone else around here, needless to say....};--))

    [Full disclosure: Of late, I confess ("...forgive me Father for I have sinned...") that I'm only using Thom's dead blog, yet wonderful scrolling archive, to consolidate a little of his more timely work in one place online (a miniscule amount compared to the 30 books or so he has written and to the decades of interviews across the media spectrum he has conducted with top scholars -- on BOTH sides of the political divide -- on many, many important subjects. Certain other seemingly relevant research sources as well are included, as a convenient means for easy and fast retrieval of vital information in other online conversations and study groups.

    Plus, a more expanded research is had by following the pertinent links and varied sources scattered throughout the articles and videos. Besides, multiple sourcing from reliable, sincere, and concerned people, teachers, scientists, and recognized scholars is not a bad thing for the advancement of society. Time and energy-consuming sidetracks down wackadoodle​, dead-end paths are.

    Trolling the trolls, the last vestige of sad dead-enders narrowingly "clinging to guns and religion" and whiteness and conspiracy theories -- and to the carcass of this once lively blog (why?) -- sharpens the fangs, so to speak, while providing a wee bit of comic relief, no offense, to an otherwise ominous and sobering chapter unfolding rather quickly (in evolutionary timeframes anyway) in this long and remarkable story of humankind and the evolution of life on Mother/Father Earth. A frightening yet endlessly compelling "future-history" is looming on the horizon for this pale blue dot in the vastness of space. But that future can be altered hugely more positively by the consequential actions humans could take today to stave off the worst. Now especially is not the time for the dominate species on this heated-up planet to sit on its lazy laurels, wishing and hoping for the best while ensuring the worst.

    BTW, Óinseach, beyond all else, that IS a very cool video of the black and white dogs working together, which all on this "side" of the space/time continuum have enjoyed greatly. Thank you, ma'am.]

    Unintended ignorance is just a lazy mind, not necessarily a stupid mind. So one must be very dedicated and energetically proactive to get at the truth of things -- and constantly vigilant to the massive propaganda campaign waged by vested billionaires in the fossil fuel-fuel and so-called "defense" industries, in cahoots with Wall Street's other greedy complement of one-precenters, who all buy, or become, politicians to maintain their ungodly power (the original definition of fascism), and who bait the Republican hardcore base with extremist political ideology: ruthless Ayn Rand-esque objectivism, euphemistically coined a deregulated "free" market (neither free nor fair for workers nor customers); unwarranted negativism; ridiculous *denialism; endlessly repeating lies; hate; racism; false religion; phony patriotism; and a new wave of extreme ethnonationalism, which is threatening to tear societies apart across the planet. These are the standard tools of autocrats from before recorded history.

    Trump knows his base well and plays them for the fools they are.

    The real problem for humanity and Earth's "tree of life" is not fools like the authoritarian-minded Trumps of the world so much as it is the fools who enable them. After all, the primary cause of global warming, racism, and hatred is not the outward but the inward -- the mind of Homo sapiens and how it thinks, not necessarily what it thinks. The Trump trolls on this blog are a classic example of this ultimate groupthink, and actually a rather fascinating study as a microcosm of this weird (and deadly) phenomenon gripping the world -- kinda like studying bugs through a magnifying glass but of course with far-reaching implications for succeeding generations.

    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:

    *Denialism

    (For denialism of historical events, see Historical negationism.)

    In the psychology of human behavior, denialism is a person's choice [emphasis mine] to deny reality, as a way to avoid a psychologically uncomfortable truth.[1] Denialism is an essentially irrational action that withholds the validation of a historical experience or event, when a person refuses to accept an empirically verifiable reality.[2] In the sciences, denialism is the rejection of basic facts and concepts that are undisputed, well-supported parts of the scientific consensus on a subject, in favor of radical and controversial ideas.[3] The terms Holocaust denialism and AIDS denialism describe the denial of the facts and the reality of the subject matters,[4] and the term climate change denial describes denial of the scientific consensus that the climate change of planet Earth is a real and occurring event primarily caused by human activity.[5] The forms of denialism present the common feature of the person rejecting overwhelming evidence and the generation of political controversy with attempts to deny the existence of consensus.[6][7] The motivations and causes of denialism include religion and self-interest (economic, political, financial) and defence mechanisms meant to protect the psyche of the denialist against mentally disturbing facts and ideas.[8][9]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denialism

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    Vox - Nov 13, 2018, 3:00pm EST (fair use)

    "In the midterm elections, the GOP strategy was racism. In key races, it worked.

    Republicans stoked racist fears in Florida and Georgia elections."

    By Samuel Sinyangwe:

    Two weeks before this year’s midterm elections, in front of a crowded auditorium at Broward College, Florida gubernatorial candidate Andrew Gillum called out his Republican opponent, Ron DeSantis, for taking donations from and speaking at conferences hosted bywhite supremacists. “I’m not calling Mr. DeSantis a racist. I’m simply saying the racists believe he’s a racist,” said Gillum.

    Gillum was right. DeSantis ran on racism — and so did many other Republicans. And racism appears to have won, at least in Florida and Georgia, where Democrats had hoped the historic campaigns of black candidates Andrew Gillum and Stacey Abrams would be decisive in winning control of these pivotal states.

    To be clear, Republicans did not do well in the 2018 elections. They lost nearly 40 House seats, lost control of at least seven governorships and over 300 state legislative seats, and lost a sizeable proportion of suburban white voters in key states they’ll need to win in 2020. But despite running brilliant high-profile candidates for governor in Florida and Georgia, Democrats appear to have fallen short of decisive wins. Why?

    In the 2018 elections, racism was foundational to the Republican political strategy, a strategy that involved using their institutional power to prevent people of color from voting while using racist political rhetoric to drive turnout among rural white voters. And though we won’t know the final outcome of the election until all remaining ballots are counted (and recounted), election returns so far suggest this Republican strategy likely prevented Democrats from winning the governorship in Florida and Georgia.

    Voter suppression by voter ID laws, long lines, and broken voting machines disproportionately affects Democratic candidates

    The most glaring part of Republicans’ strategy was voter suppression. Republicans used a variety of methods during the elections to make it more difficult for Democrats to be able to vote. These efforts disproportionately targeted communities of color, who are more likely to vote Democratic.

    For example, in Georgia, Republican gubernatorial candidate Brian Kemp used his position as secretary of state to purge an estimated 107,000 people from the voter registration rolls just because they had not voted recently — with the majority of counties purging black voters at higher rates than whites. He put another 53,000 voter registration applications “on hold” — 70 percent of which were from black Georgians. And when people showed up to vote in predominantly black counties, they faced impossibly long lines produced by the closure of 214 polling places since 2012, as well as faulty voting machines. Later, we would learn that 700 voting machines were left wrapped and unused in a nearby warehouse in Atlanta.

    All of this happened on top of Georgia’s existing strict voter ID law, which imposed an additional barrier to voting that disproportionately disadvantaged black voters. Nationwide, 25 percent of black Americans lack government-issued photo ID, compared to only 8 percent of whites. A variety of systemic barriers make it harder for people of color to obtain a photo ID. For example, many older black residents lack birth certificates or other required documentation to get an ID. As a consequence, strict voter ID laws like Georgia’s have been shown to significantly and disproportionately reduce turnout among black and brown voters.

    Similar issues were reported in Florida, where in addition to purges and polling place closures, there were widespread reports suggesting thousands of voters never received the absentee ballots they requested, and absentee ballots that were submitted by black and Latinx voters were rejected at higher rates due to “signature mismatch.” Taken together, these forms of institutional racism — political institutions imposing discriminatory barriers to voting — could have cost Stacey Abrams and Andrew Gillum the votes needed to defeat their opponents.

    The GOP used racism to turn out its base

    Institutional racism only tells part of the story: Throughout the midterm campaigns, Trump and the Republican candidates repeatedly used coded racist appeals to appeal to white voters. In the final weeks of the election, President Trump used his “bully pulpit” — the largest platform in the world — to spread racist and misleading narratives about immigrants.

    In October, as a caravan of asylum seekers began walking from Central America towards the southern US border, Trump made claims that the caravan was made up of criminals and “unknown Middle Easterners” and was “invading” America. Then, a week before the election, the president released an anti-immigrant ad depicting an undocumented immigrant who murdered two police officers and implying that other “dangerous illegal criminals” were in the caravan. The ad was considered so racist that even Fox News stopped airing it.

    These anti-immigrant narratives dominated the news cycle before the election. Exit polls showed that the strategy worked: Immigration was the single most important issue for Republican voters. In Florida and Georgia, exit polls show both DeSantis and Kemp voters considered immigration to be the most important issue in the election, while health care was the most important issue for those who voted for Gillum and Abrams.

    Immigrants weren't’t the only targets of this racism. Gillum and Abrams themselves were targeted with racist rhetoric. Trump called Andrew Gillum a “thief” while referring to his Republican opponent as “Harvard educated.” Gillum’s Republican opponent also evoked racist stereotypes by telling voters not to “monkey this up”by voting for Gillum.

    In both Georgia and Florida, white supremacist groups organized racist robocallsto voters. These recorded messages called Gillum a “negro” and “monkey” and Stacey Abrams a “negress.” Research shows that priming white voters to think about race can significantly impact their support for black candidates. For example, studies show the darker a candidate’s skin, the less likely white voters are to support them, and that political appeals that make a black candidate’s race more salient to white voters significantly reduce their share of the white vote.

    The GOP’s stoking of racist fears might have also driven people to vote against them

    As Republican politicians made anti-immigrant and anti-black appeals to their base, rural white voters turned out at high rates to offset Democratic gains in the suburbs. Many of these voters are based in Southern states, where the legacy of racism lives on. White people living in counties where slavery was more prevalent in 1860 are significantly more likely to identify as Republicans, a party that today is working to dismantle civil rights protections and end programs that remedy racial inequities.

    Moreover, these voters were more likely to harbor racist attitudes and political beliefs, such as reporting feeling warmer towards whites than blacks and opposing affirmative action. And nearly 2 million people in Florida and Georgia were prohibited from voting in the election because of felony disenfranchisement laws enacted during the Jim Crow era to suppress the black vote (fortunately, Florida voters repealed one of these laws this election by passing Amendment 4).

    It’s possible that all of these factors didn't’t matter enough to change the results by the one percent (or even half of one percent) needed to change the outcome. It’s possible that these blatantly racist appeals had the opposite effect for some voters: motivating people of color and some white voters to show up and vote Democrat.

    But it’s hard to believe all of these tactics used in combination — each already proven to have significant and measurable impacts on their own in past elections — would not have some effect on these key elections. Now, as these candidates work to make sure all the votes that were able to be cast are all counted, it’s critical that we acknowledge and address the role that racism played in preventing many more people from participating. Racism, in the end, appears to have proven decisive.

    Samuel Sinyangwe is an activist and data scientist focused on addressing racism and police violence in the United States through local, state, and federal advocacy. He is a co-founder of Campaign Zero, a national platform of data-driven policy solutions and advocacy tools to end police violence.

    https://www.vox.com/first-person/2018/11/13/18092460/florida-georgia-abrams-gillum-elections-2018-counting-votes

  • Greetings from Thom in Cuba with Code Pink   5 years 46 weeks ago

    Join CODEPINK on our exciting trip to Eastern Cuba! With Raúl Castro stepping down and Miguel Diaz-Canel the new president, now is an exciting time to travel to Cuba with CODEPINK and call for diplomacy and friendship between the Cuban and United States people search.

  • The Thom Hartmann Program - Aug 30th 2018   5 years 46 weeks ago

    Why Do So Many Hollywood Elites Despise President Trump?

    https://barbwire.com/why-do-so-many-hollywood-elites-despise-president-trump/

  • The Thom Hartmann Program - Aug 30th 2018   5 years 46 weeks ago
  • The Thom Hartmann Program - Aug 30th 2018   5 years 46 weeks ago

    continued,

    You won't find the right clawing on The Supreme Court Doors.

    Harrassing Tucker's daughter.

    Screaming into the wind in P*ssy hats.

    Praising Antifa tactics.

    Crying n safe spaces.

    and so much more.

  • The Thom Hartmann Program - Aug 30th 2018   5 years 46 weeks ago

    Coalage3 which brings to mind a question, why did everyone call Barack Obama a black man?

  • The Thom Hartmann Program - Aug 30th 2018   5 years 46 weeks ago

    And if you believe that gender and sex are fluid, then you must also believe that there is no specific race you are born into either. Right? I mean Elizabeth Warren gets to pretend she's an American Indian.

    Well, I don't know about you but I'm glad we settled that. Race problems are finally solved.

  • The Thom Hartmann Program - Aug 30th 2018   5 years 46 weeks ago

    What a crock of BS. Democrats/liberals/progressives don't believe in science. And that includes the science of alleged climate change. I find it very strange that dems don't believe in science/biology/mother nature when it comes to transgender issues. They don't believe in GMO foods even though science has overwhelmingly shown them to be safe and nutritious. Dems only profess to believe in "science" when it suits a political agenda...otherwise not so much. If you want the public to accept climate change, then you should also want the public to accept the gender and sex you are born with since science and biology decided that for you. Right?

  • The Thom Hartmann Program - Aug 30th 2018   5 years 46 weeks ago

    Truth isn't truth ...and whiny little snowflake hypocrites think healthy and brutally honest criticism, albeit biting, of the ubiquitous, blind Hillary/Obama/Democrat hatred, as well as transparently racist comments and global warming denials, is falsely construed as "hate on their brothers and sisters."

    That's a (white-lady) lie.

    Or haven't Trump trolls been paying attention? (Stupid question!) There is no match on the Democratic side of politics for the extremist right-wing hate spreading across the land like wildfire.

    Or are Republican snowflakes in denial of that too?

    And why is Óinseach posting on the Thom Hartmann blog, if it's such a pain to hear the simple truth about racism and anthropogenic climate disruption -- perhaps two of the worst delusions emanating from the Republican rank and file?

  • The Thom Hartmann Program - Aug 30th 2018   5 years 46 weeks ago

    DianeR,

    Glad to share the Dogs! Such loyal, loving critters!!

  • The Thom Hartmann Program - Aug 30th 2018   5 years 46 weeks ago

    Speaking of the wing-nut fringe, Gobshite's only trick is to leap-frog her comments to mess up the sequence because she can't handle true scientific critiques of her racist views and couched global warming denials.

    Again -- Why is she even posting on the Thom Hartmann blog anyway?

  • The Thom Hartmann Program - Aug 30th 2018   5 years 46 weeks ago

    This Shows The HUGE Difference Between Barack Obama's DHS, Which Targeted Survivalists As Potential Terrorists, And President Trump's DHS, Which Is Urging Americans To BECOME Preppers!- November Declared National Critical Infrastructure Security And Resilience Month

    http://allnewspipeline.com/DHS_National_Critical_Infrastructure_November.php

    While Dems tear down the country and hate on their brothers and sisters...everyone else should prepare for what that could bring. I don't think Thom is going to help you.

  • The Thom Hartmann Program - Aug 30th 2018   5 years 46 weeks ago

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  • The Thom Hartmann Program - Aug 30th 2018   5 years 46 weeks ago

    Ignorance is contagious on the far-right fringe.

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    Vox - "First Person" - Updated Nov 12, 2018, 11:10am EST - (fair use)

    "I'm a woman who fought wildfires for 7 years. Climate change is absolutely making them worse.

    Warmer climate is creating the perfect conditions for long wildfire seasons in the West."

    By Anastasia Selby:

    2018’s wildfires are already proving to be more destructive than last year’s. The Camp Fire near Chico, California has already claimed at least 29 lives, destroyed more than 6,400 structures, and burned more than 111,000 acres since it began last Thursday. It is now the deadliest and most destructive fire in California’s history. Meanwhile, the Woolsey Fire continues to ravage Los Angeles County, burning 85,500 acres. This essay, published during last year’s brutal fire season, tackles many of the same issues as this year’s season.

    The mundane days all run together. But those days when I was genuinely unsure if I would make it to the end of my shift intact are the ones that stand out.

    I remember fighting a fire on the Angeles National Forest in 2002. Our crew flew onto a ridge in a helicopter. The rotor wash, or wind created by the helicopter blades, flung orange embers into the unburned vegetation — the “green.” Immediately, it started burning.

    We jumped out of the helicopter, ran underneath the fire, and started digging. The goal was to quickly create a line free of any vegetation that could burn, called a fireline, which we used to stop fires from growing. Digging fireline is grueling; I often lost myself in the sound of chainsaws and rhythm of my tool hitting the dirt and ignored my physical pain.

    Some of us had to run deep into the green and find embers or put out new small fires before they began burning out of control. There were full minutes when I thought, This may be it. We may not make it.

    I worked as a wildland firefighter for seven years in the 2000s. And so I’ve been watching the smoky footage on my computer of the fires burning across the West this last month with great unease. Take the La Tuna Fire, which ignited on September 1. It was one of the largest fires Los Angeles has ever seen and burned more than 7,000 acres before it was contained. And it’s the kind of fire that is increasingly common in the age of climate change.

    Wildland firefighters are especially attuned to how climate change puts us all at greater risk for destructive fires. We understand how higher temperatures and long-term drought are the perfect conditions for ignition. To us, there’s little controversy that it’s happening, although not everyone believes it’s human caused. I do, and, along with others in the field, I wonder when those in power will take the steps needed to address climate change.

    Climate change and wildfires are a vicious cycle of worsening conditions

    Wildfires currently burning in Northern California have destroyed thousands of acres and homes and resulted in the deaths of 11 people. Counties including Napa and Sonoma have been declared a state of emergency.

    It’s been a brutal wildfire season. Last month’s La Tuna Fire in Los Angeles was, I’m sure, one of those fires that seemed uncontainable. In a speech, Ralph Terrazas, the LAFD fire chief, said, “We can handle everything. We have to. We don’t have an option.” He sounded exhausted and less hopeful than his words.

    Southern California’s fire season usually lasts into late September and October when hot, strong winds called the Santa Ana blow through the region. I witnessed this. Fires often started on roadsides, ignited by discarded cigarette butts or even a spark from a motorcycle. The La Tuna Fire didn't’t bode well for this year’s California fire season, and we’re seeing those effects.

    Last month, I spoke with my friend Jesse Moreng, an ex-hotshot — or wildland firefighter — who now works as a multi-mission aircraft manager, mapping fires for the firefighters on the ground. When I asked Jesse if he thought this fire season was more severe than most, he said yes, “just in terms of how many places are burning at once.”

    The US Fire Service and the Department of the Interior in September reportedspending more than $2.1 billion on fires this year so far, which is what they spent for the entire fire season in 2015, one of the most devastating fire seasons since 1960. What strikes me most about the report is the predicted length the 2017 fire season. Some predicted containment dates are well into late autumn. Many of these large fires are under 5 percent contained, with no rain or helpful weather in sight. That’s going to take a lot of resources to stop or contain.

    As some fires continue to get worse, air quality will suffer, and more often, there may be loss of property and loss of life due to the increasing number of people who live in wooded areas. Most importantly, large fires emit greenhouse gases, which have been proven to accelerate climate change and burn trees, which are crucial for oxygenating the air. This will inevitably affect the quality of life of most people living in the United States. This isn't just happening here, but around the world.

    As Puerto Rico, Texas, the Caribbean, and Florida continue to recover from hurricanes Maria, Harvey, and Irma, there seems to be an Armageddon-esque dread floating around on the internet. The Tubbs and Atlas fires are carving a path of destruction through Northern California, and 33 active fires burn throughout the state. It will only get worse as the effects of climate change continue.

    Climate change will continue to affect fire behavior. According to an article published in PNAS, data from western North America confirms that human-caused climate change will lead to widespread and more frequent fires. This is because the continual warming trend sets up conditions for a longer burning season — climate change means higher temperatures and more erratic precipitation, which leads to drier fuels ripe for burning.

    It’s not hopeless. Although the wildfire news makes it feel as if the end of the world is upon us, it isn't. Not yet. The USFS motto is “Caring for the land and serving people.” But how can we enforce that when the current administration denies climate change altogether? To keep our forests and air healthy, we must be actively educating ourselves and voting for people who will be stewards of the land.

    The grueling work of fighting fires

    When I was 19, I dropped out of college, and a friend suggested I apply at a nearby fire contracting agency in Eugene, Oregon. We were on a fire within two weeks, and I loved the job. It was intense and exhausting, but I loved the camaraderie I had with my fellow crew members.

    For four years, I worked on three different hotshot crews. Hotshots are on the front lines — a crew consists of 18 to 22 members, the bulk of whom are seasonal federal employees and the rest permanent government employees.

    It’s intensely physical work. The fire season typically lasts May through October, and in a busy season, a crew will log more than 1,000 hours of overtime. On “rolls,” a crew leaves home base for two to three weeks at a time, depending on the fire situation nationally, and will only come home for a couple of days before being called out again. Every few years, some crews have a slow season, resulting in less pay. Each hotshot gets paid differently due to experience, but most are paid $13 to $17 an hour, plus overtime and hazard pay.

    Wildland firefighters are also often looked down upon by city fire departments. We aren’t considered “real” firefighters, and seasonals don’t get benefits such as health insurance or retirement that structural firefighters enjoy. A permanent position is not guaranteed and can be hard to find.

    In 2002, my crew was called to the Biscuit Fire, historically one of the largest fires in Oregon. It clocked in at more than 500,000 acres, or 781 square miles. We spent most of our time fighting the Biscuit Fire using a method called “burning,” using drip torches to burn fuels along old logging roads and new dozer lines. We hoped that when the larger fire reached the burned fuels, it would stop, because there was no more fuel to burn. We spent three weeks fighting the Biscuit Fire. Eventually, it crossed the border into California. The fire would not be contained fully for another five months.

    Burning, which also can be done using flares or dropping napalm balls from helicopters, is just one method of fighting fire. Another method is fireline, which is when a fire crew or dozer creates a fuel break by removing all vegetation along the edge of the fire so it can burn no further. There’s also the “slurry line” method, where planes and/or helicopters drop fire retardant in a line across the vegetation to slow the burn.

    For any of these methods to work, the elements have to be cooperative. Often they aren’t, and firefighters spend weeks implementing these tactics repeatedly, starting over each time they fail. We could only do so much.

    Big fires are often unwilling to be contained. One day, while on the Bitterroot Complex, which burned more than 350,000 acres, we were feeling around for embers hiding in roots and stumps when it began to snow. My boss told me stories about how, when the snowy season came, embers would hide for the entire winter underground, only to pop up in the spring and reignite.

    Even if we thought we’d have a hard time getting hold of the fire, we worked hard. After the initial frenzy of a new fire, our shifts were pretty regular: 16 hours on the fireline every day. We woke around 5 am and refilled our water, ate, and sharpened our tools in the dark, using the yellow circle of our headlamps. Throughout the day we’d lag and then become reenergized; we’d pour Emergen-C into our mouths, eat crystallized coffee, make tea with the water in our water bottles, which was almost always hot.

    Sometimes I hated the job; I’d dream of going to a restaurant and eating a steak, taking a shower — something we rarely did while in the field — sleeping in my bed. I wished, sometimes, that I could go swimming in a lake or do other summer activities I often missed out on during fire season. But firefighting was what I knew how to do, so I stayed. I loved working in the woods, where I didn't’t have to be part of what I called “real civilization.”

    There’s a part of me that misses my days of firefighting. But when I see the ongoing fires in California, Oregon, and Montana, I think about just how intense it was, and how much worse it’s getting every year. There will always be men and women at the forefront of these fires, doing whatever they can to contain the devastating impacts of nature. The politicians in charge of climate change policies need to make these hotshots’ jobs a little easier.

    Anastasia Selby grew up in Washington state and spent most of her 20s fighting forest fires. She is now an MFA candidate in fiction at Syracuse University and looks forward to graduation in 2018, when she can head out West again. Find her on Twitter @AnastasiaSelby.

    https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/9/14/16301876/camp-fire-woolsey-fire-california-wildfires-2018

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    Union of Concerned Scientists

    "Is Global Warming Fueling Increased Wildfire Risks?

    The effects of global warming on temperature, precipitation levels, and soil moisture are turning many of our forests into kindling during wildfire season."

    As the climate warms, moisture and precipitation levels are changing, with wet areas becoming wetter and dry areas becoming drier.

    Higher spring and summer temperatures and earlier spring snowmelt typicallycause soils to be drier for longer, increasing the likelihood of drought and a longer wildfire season, particularly in the western United States.

    These hot, dry conditions also increase the likelihood that wildfires will be more intense and long-burning once they are started by lightning strikes or human error.

    The costs of wildfires, in terms of risks to human life and health, property damage, and state and federal dollars, are devastating, and they are only likely to increase unless we better address the risks of wildfires and reduce our activities that lead to further climate change.

    Wildfires are already on the rise

    Wildfires in the western United States have been increasing in frequency and duration since the mid-1980s. Between 1986 and 2003, wildfires occurred nearly four times as often, burned more than six times the land area, and lasted almost five times as long when compared to the period between 1970 and 1986.

    Natural cycles, human activities like land-use change and fire exclusion, and human-caused climate change can all influence the likelihood of wildfires. Many of the areas that have seen increased wildfire activity, like Yosemite National Park and the Northern Rockies, are protected from or relatively unaffected by human land-use change, suggesting that climate change is a major factor driving the increase in wildfires in these places.

    Precipitation patterns, global warming, and wildfires

    Though the current trend of increasing severe wildfire frequency in parts of the US is projected to continue as the climate warms, droughts and wildfires are not equally likely to occur every year.

    Natural, cyclical weather occurrences such as El Niño events also affect the likelihood of wildfires by affecting levels of precipitation and moisture and lead to year-by-year variability in the potential for drought and wildfires regionally.

    Nonetheless, because temperatures and precipitation levels are projected to alter further over the course of the 21st century, the overall potential for wildfires in the western United States is projected to increase.

    As the world warms, we can expect more wildfires

    US wildfire seasons—especially those in years with higher wildfire potential—are projected to lengthen, with the Southwest’s season of fire potential lengthening from seven months to all year long. Additionally, the likelihood that individual wildfires become severe is expected to increase.

    Researchers project that moist, forested areas are the most likely to face greater threats from wildfires as conditions in those areas become drier and hotter.

    Surprisingly, some dry grasslands may be less at risk of catching fire because the intense aridity is likely to prevent these grasses from growing at all, leaving these areas so barren that they are likely to lack the fodder for wildfires to start and spread.

    A conflagration of costs

    The economic costs of wildfires can be crippling. Data on total US property damage from wildfires are hard to come by, but the costs are estimated to be on the level of hundreds of millions of dollars per year.

    In addition to property damage, wildfires cost states and the federal government millions in fire-suppression management. The US Forest Service’s yearly fire-suppression costs have exceeded $1 billion for 13 of the 18 years between 2000 and 2017. In 2015, these costs exceeded $2 billion, and in 2017 they totaled almost $3 billion. The risk to property owners is particularly acute in areas at the “wildland-urban interface.” In California alone, this area includes more than 5 million homes in coastal southern California, the Bay Area, and northeast of Sacramento.

    The environmental and health costs of wildfires are also considerable. Not only do wildfires threaten lives directly, but they have the potential to increase local air pollution, exacerbating lung diseases and causing breathing difficulties even in healthy individuals.

    Additionally, a counterintuitive aspect of mountain forest wildfires is their ability to increase flash flood risk. The loss of vegetation from wildfires and the inability of burned soil to absorb moisture can cause flash floods in lower-lying areas when rains do come in the days and months following fires, especially to the semi-arid Southwest.

    Wildfire safety and prevention

    Greenhouse-gas emissions from human activities are raising global temperatures and changing the climate, leading to a likely rise in wildfire severity and frequency.

    But it is not too late to act. What we do now has the power to influence the frequency and severity of these fires and their effects on us.

    By engaging in fire safety efforts—creating buffer zones between human habitation and susceptible forests, and meeting home and city fire-safety standards—we can help reduce our current risks, and by taking steps to reduce our impact on the climate, we can help to keep our forests, our homes, and our health safe.

    Learn more

    https://www.ucsusa.org/global-warming/science-and-impacts/impacts/global-warming-and-wildfire.html

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    "Global Warming and California Wildfires"

    California Climate Choices - A Fact Sheet of the Union of Concerned Scientists:

    Wildfires are a major environmental hazard that have historically cost California more than $800 million each year and contribute to “bad air days” throughout the state. The more global warming pollution that is emitted into the atmosphere, the more wildfires we can expect to see in California.

    More Wildfires Expected

    If average statewide temperatures rise to the medium warming range (5.5 to 8°F), the risk of large wildfires in California is expected to increase about 20 percent by mid-century and 50 percent by the end of the century. This is almost twice the wildfire increase expected if temperatures are kept within the lower warming range.

    Along with temperature, wildfires are determined by a variety of factors, including precipitation. Because of this, future wildfire risk throughout the state will not be uniform. For example, a hotter, drier climate could increase the flammability of vegetation in northern California and promote up to a 90 percent increase in large wildfires by the end of the century. A hotter, wetter climate would also lead to an increase in wildfires in northern California, but to a S O U R C E S California Department of Finance. 2004. Population Projections by Race/Ethnicity for California and Its Counties 2000–2050, Sacramento, California. May. Westerling, A., and B. Bryant. 2006. Change and wildfires around California: Fire modeling and loss modeling. California Climate Change Center report. Online at www.energy.ca.gov/2005publications/ CEC-500-2005-190/CEC-500-2005-190-SF.pdf. Wu, J., A. Winer, and R. Delfino. “Exposure Assessment of Particulate Matter Air Pollution Before, During, and After the 2003 Southern California Wildfires.” Accepted for publication in Atmospheric Environment, January 2006. Global Warming and California Wildfires lesser extent—about a 40 percent increase by century’s end.

    More “Bad Air Days” Wildfire smoke produces small soot particles, which can cause or aggravate cardiovascular and respiratory illness and lead to premature death. For example, the wildfires that burned nearly three-quarters of a million acres in southern California in 2003 caused particulate matter (soot) to increase four to five times above normal levels throughout the southern part of the state. Five million people were exposed to dangerous levels of air pollution for at least two days during the fires, and nearly two million were exposed for five days in a row.

    Wildfire Costs Expected to Increase If global warming emissions continue unabated and temperatures rise into the higher warming range, property damage costs from California wildfires could increase as much as 30 percent toward the end of the century. This estimate is conservative because it assumes population and land-use patterns are held constant at 2000 levels, even though the state’s population is expected to grow from 36 million today to more than 55 million by 2050. Furthermore, other fire-related costs such as fire prevention and suppression, health effects of fire-related pollution, flooding, mudslides, altered recreation opportunities, and loss of timber were not included.

    Because most global warming emissions remain in the atmosphere for decades or centuries, the choices we make today greatly influence the climate our children and grandchildren inherit. We have the technology to increase energy efficiency and significantly reduce emissions from energy and land use. We must act now to avoid the dangerous consequences of global warming and help ensure a high quality of life for future generations.

    S O U R C E S

    California Department of Finance. 2004. Population Projections by Race/Ethnicity for California and Its Counties 2000–2050, Sacramento, California. May. Westerling, A., and B. Bryant. 2006. Change and wildfires around California: Fire modeling and loss modeling. California Climate Change Center report. Online at www.energy.ca.gov/2005publications/ CEC-500-2005-190/CEC-500-2005-190-SF.pdf.

    Wu, J., A. Winer, and R. Delfino. “Exposure Assessment of Particulate Matter Air Pollution Before, During, and After the 2003 Southern California Wildfires.” Accepted for publication in Atmospheric Environment, January 2006

    https://www.ucsusa.org/sites/default/files/legacy/assets/documents/global_warming/ucs-ca-wildfires-1.pdf

  • The Thom Hartmann Program - Aug 30th 2018   5 years 46 weeks ago

    Coalage3 You stated it well.

    HotCoffee, I passed the dog video on to over 100 friends. Lots of great responses. Thanks.

  • The Thom Hartmann Program - Aug 30th 2018   5 years 46 weeks ago

    coalage3,

    Hard to believe Jerry Brown when I saw with my own eyes the power pole with a 10 inch flame coming out the top surronded by trees on my own property last winter...thankfully it was raining when it happened. The fire dept stayed with it until the power co. showed up.

    Jerry doesn't want you to know how bad the rural infrastructure is...think back to Oriville Dam. Why blame himself when he can charge us for cap and trade instead? Power company is known for its corruption, as well as paying themselves and shareholders monies that should have been invested in hardening the grid, and charging customers for their failures.

    Chico...next door to Paradise is a college town. Paradise is mostly retired elderly. Others are decendents of the gold miners of days gone by.

    Where I am is, mostly decendents of the loggers that cut the trees that built San Francisco. There are stumps on my land 10 ft. wide. Many here have become ranchers of organic grass fed beef with a few sheep , no pigs that I have seen. We also have hippies from the 60's that came to grow MMJ.

    Put the dang power lines under ground.

    So, now with at least 250,000 people homeless from fire added to the homeless from last years fires, and the povery stricken and drug addicted homeless. we have 11,000 or so from South of the Border headed to San Deigo....just great! To top it off it's the people from South of the border Jerry Bown will take care of. You won't see Jerry in Paradise helping the elderly get food stamps free housing and legal assistance.

    All that being said it's awesome in the country...:)

  • The Thom Hartmann Program - Aug 30th 2018   5 years 46 weeks ago

    Excerpts: https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/democrats-house-first-amendment-second-amendment/

    This isn't name-calling. Even though there's hard science and expert opinion that suggests no major role for global warming in these fires, Brown persists in blaming the damage on climate. He's held these beliefs for a long time.

    When California suffered an earlier outbreak of forest fires in August, Brown described what was happening thusly:

    "We're fighting nature with the amount of material we're putting in the environment, and that material traps heat, and the heat fosters fires, and the fires keep burning," he said.

    He then said we need to take extraordinary steps to "shift the weather back to where it historically was," noting that current climate is the hottest it's been "since civilization emerged 10,000 years ago."

    But there's virtually no real science in anything he has said on this subject. As we noted back in August, the climate record clearly shows there were periods much hotter than today. Brown's talking point is just nonsense.

    More troubling is that he and other of the global warming brigade want to stifle any possibility of dissent over their climate theories by demonizing those who disagree. Calling people "deniers" is a crude, not so subtle way of linking them to the phrase "holocaust deniers." It's a despicable abuse of language.

    Does that mean climate change has nothing to do with fires? Not necessarily. If the climate were much hotter, things would be drier and more flammable. But average temperatures haven't changed in 20 years. What has changed is that millions of new people live in California, with more than ever living in remote places and others living in hundreds of thousands of new homes to the far edges of suburbia.

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