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He actually did say that, but so what? It was in 2016. Ted has Alzheimers so anything that he says is questionable. He does like open spaces, as he owns a lot of them. The world population has tripled in my lifetime. Is this the cause to climate change? Can we sustain that kind of growth? China and India combined is 10x the population of the USA. Is promoting birth control and sex education bad? Is it Liberal?
What I really question is "Liberals can also promote some of these hateful ideas." And then come up with (1) an off the wall comment by Ted Turner. What was he called? The mouth from the south? Something like that. What makes Ted Turner hateful? What defines him as a liberal? The fact that he donated a million to the United Nations? That he has joined Warren Buffet's Group in pledging to donate the vast majority of his net worth? That he has supported environmental causes? The fact that he endorsed Hillary over a buffoon that is destroying the country? That he is for Universal Healthcare? We would be a lot better off in this pandemic if we had it.
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No, Ted Turner did not say that.
Interesting perspective, Thom. In Canada, unemployment is higher than 10% in most areas and the number of coronavirus cases is not small. Despite the fact that the government here implemented strict self-isolation policies around mid-March, across the board. Could action have been taken sooner? Possibly, but that might have damaged the economy even more.
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Liberals can also promote some of these hateful ideas. Ted Turner said in 1996:
“A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.”
Rich has not yet realised wealth can become UN wealth very sharply
When folk have nothing to spend because rich has all the money
When pandemic and people die it hits economy
When stock market hits total fear falling like a stone
When fiat money loses value due to lack of faith
It is happening now
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Very interesting. Yeah, our little spit of time and space doesn't seem all that significant, considering the immensity of the universe, and the strong likelihood of a "multiverse." The probabilities do become seemingly endless the further one extrapolates into the future, trying to apply the known to the unknown.
Hopefully, as we evolve, scientific curiosity and moral consciousness will prevail over ignorance and selfishness -- a straightforward path that will lead to a better future for all life to thrive. Maybe that is our humble contribution in the grand scheme of things.
Meanwhile, in a physical world set in a present timeframe, all we can do with the senses available to humans (and horses) is to understand our surroundings and circumstances as much as possible. When the great "wheel" of time stops during those still moments of the day, suspended between what has been and what will be -- a timeless state where life actually lives -- there exists that pivotal, creative instant when all things are possible, the consequence of every past action that meets every potential future, if only we realize it.
Subconscious deep reflection, sometimes called daydreaming, is a common phenomenon wired into the brain, involving an inexplicable sense of wonder and free association that scarcely leaves a mark on memory but appears to be a main driving force in problem-solving, which scientists have yet to explain adequately.
Hence, performing the critical actions right now at this point in the march of time is all that really matters. Good or bad, what we do today determines tomorrow, so our aim should be true -- to observe reality as much as our intelligence will allow, both individually and collectively, and then learn the lessons. They might be hard, maybe impossible, but the passion to understand everything around and within us, including that which can never be fully comprehended, is the greatest strength of our species.
With the scientific method, we must honor the cause and effect of outward, observable reality and then act accordingly to achieve meaningful results. Perhaps, in a moral sense, in the subjective world, behavioral karma has an equal imperative. Making an individual free choice is, like a hologram, a smaller reflection of a larger action -- a collective consciousness that will determine the ultimate fate of our species and the tree of life on Earth.
"We all do better when we all do better." - Paul Wellstone
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Thanks for the "rhyme". It reminded me something that i read looong time ago, presumably this "Thus our instincts certainly cause us to believe the sun will rise to-morrow, but we may be in no better a position than the chicken which unexpectedly has its neck wrung."
(href=http://www.personal.kent.edu/~rmuhamma/Philosophy/RBwritings/ProbPhiloBook/chap-VI.htm> ).
Thanks also for the link for our (possible) "future history" (interesting oxymoron by itself). I may be misinterpreting the "movie", but i think it arrives at an "agnostic" conclusion, having "described" two "limiting" scenarios per "dimension" (technology, AI, envoronment, politics etc). Does the "wheel" stand for simple "mathematical" probabilities? Does it represent the so called "free will"? (Does something like the latter REALLY exists? And if yes, has any one heard of "collective free will"? (collective in the meaning of "everybody together")). Even if chance (probabilities) decides for the fate of Universe, the "movie" had a more optimistic conclusion (imho of course) than the first part of your note. However, extrapolating so far into "future history" is prone to suffer from a significant "extrapolation error".
For those who believe in evolution (Darwin style) "humans" (or "hu-mans") are not (most probably not) the end of "evolution". So, it is not likely that homo sapiens will bring a ("good" or "bad") end to the Universe (or even to our galaxy). It will likely be some other "species' " "glory" (and problem) to do so.
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"History never repeats itself but it often rhymes." Historical comparisons are certainly apt, up to a point. Alas, we are in uncharted waters and no longer have the luxury of time. The sand in the hourglass allotted for the Homo sapien experiment in evolution and democracy is fast running out ...and we will have destroyed ourselves.
So, is that our future history?
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