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I worry that Biden will blunder his way into losing to the orange clown. He should take a page from the Republican playbook and have every answer rehearsed since it doesn't matter if the answer exactly matches the question.
Speaking of impeachment, was Kavanagh under oath in his confirmation hearing when he said he would support stare decisis?
Ignorance is not necessarily stupidity; willful ignorance certainly is. The content above demonstrates that quite explicitly. Racism is a learned behavior, an instilled attitude drilled into the immature minds of young children who don't have the mental capacity, the life experience, or the wisdom to resist.
As these childish bigots grow into damaged adults, the hateful indoctrination they endured in their tender years remains an integral part of a truly retarded thought process, which usually lingers throughout their pathetic lives in one form or another. Regardless of how it may be shrouded in sleazy language that feigns respectability and acceptance, a faux intellectualism, it will always be painfully visible in its raw form to those wise and experienced enough to see through the pitiful attempts to conceal it -- especially to those who are the generational victims of hate and bigotry.
The abject racism on full display here is the coin of their realm. Such immature fools should not preach to others what it means to be an adult, as it reveals their own immaturity and foolishness for all to witness -- an unconscious projection attributed to others who challenge them. The logical fallacies shamelessly proffered above assume anti-racists are merely "unhappy" or "afraid" or "destructive" or lacking a "rational approach."
The tell is contained in the second paragraph of post #4: "I do understand that in some people's eyes statues and monuments can be offensive [...] why some people find them objectionable." [bold italics mine] In other words, a reader must assume that the writer of such disgusting garbage does not find monuments that glorify racism offensive or objectionable himself. It's just, you know, those "other" people who do -- those "colored" people, and anyone who may empathize with them.
While in the Army, I lived in Germany for 18 months and, gee, failed to notice any monuments to Nazism and fascism -- exactly what our "Greatest Generation" fought against! Go figure. Have Germans failed in their own "understanding that was part of who [they] have become today"? Certainly not! Most of them (not all) fully understand that it is highly destructive for a society to glorify the horrible mistakes of the past; consequently, they teach their children a better way -- not to hate -- in "the process [that] will continue to evolve."
It's too bad that in our country we have so many willfully ignorant fools who are too immature to evolve. Hopefully, Trumpism is their last hurrah when the Racist in Chief is at last relegated to the dust bin of history come November.
Destroying Confederate monuments isn’t ‘erasing’ history. It’s learning from it.
Defenders of the memorials are the ones trying to forget the past.
#1. The good side does not always win. Chinese Civil War in the 40's is an example.
"Racism is all he's got." -- Amanda Marcotte
The disgusting MAGATs are going all-in on hate. Never mind the pandemic and the economy -- this is war! White privilege is at stake!
IWhy is a civil war a war between Good and Evil? And how come the soldiers of the good side always win?
Is a successful revolution the triumph of the Good and a failed one the failure of Evil (simply a revolt)? Corollary: Whose triumph is the Russian revolution ( concluded in 1923, after 6 years)?Good's? Evil's? Or it depends on the eye (mind) of the Beholder?
Another one is gone at the Wholesome all American Fox News.
The mainstream media is owned and operated by the 1%. A very conservative right wing group. It steers the political agenda in America. The deck was set against the likes of Bernie because he wants to get money out of politics. The, as you call it, MSM benefits off of the Billions in political ads. They want money in politics. One of many articles: They put Trump in office with countless hours of free TV time. The head of CBS "Leslie Moonves on Donald Trump: "It May Not Be Good for America, but It's Damn Good for CBS"".
The only person that is pretending is you.
Of course Trump is Hitler.
Look at the all newspaper editors he has liquidated. Look at how every MSM outlet pumps out propaganda praising him. Look at how only pro-Trump propaganda is allowed on social media. Look at how he has murdered all his political opponents. Look how he has initiated a world war. Look how he has invaded his neighbors. Look at how Trump is burning books on campuses and banning professors who oppose him. Look at how he has established Trump youth camps all around the nation. Look at how he has begun liquidating minorities in death camps. Look around you, we are in Nazi Germany aren't we?
People should read The Rise and Fall of Third Reich by William Shirer, it would help them with a little thing called reality. One side has iron fisted control of the universities, rising control of primary schools, absolute control of Silicon Valley, absolute control of the MSM, control of the bureaucracy, increasing control of corporations, etc.... that side is not Trump or the Republicans. The bottom line is that only one side is trying to impede my access to information and that side is not Trump or the Republicans.
Time to stop pretending.
When all the bad news is sifted out, there is that nugget of good news that glitters in the black sand at the bottom of the pan. Every election cycle proves that what the People think and feel is much more valuable than what politicians think and feel.
"Hope springs eternal in the human breast." -- Alexander Pope
That's why billionaires spend their billions to get their political and media mouthpieces to influence how we think and feel, to make us empathize with their interests rather than our own. The greatest fear of the wealthy elite is that we will no longer believe in their cause, that we will no longer cede our power to them.
Sure, it took an exceedingly rare impeachment of a fascist leader, a once-a-century deadly pandemic and economic upheaval; and perhaps more importantly, it took 400 years of bigotry, slavery, persecution, and the genocide of black people, the persecution and genocide of Native Americans, the persecution, hard labor, and massive die-off of Orientals building the railroads out West, and the degradation, alienation, assimilation, and dilution of Hispanics and their culture at every turn -- it took all of that sad history to finally boil over within an amazingly short period of time, in just six months, to maybe, hopefully, wake up white people enough to join the protest, to redress our collective grievances and to effect real change without fear of punishment or reprisal.
Is it possible that we are having another pivotal, once-a-century, Franklin D. Roosevelt moment where we "welcome their hatred" -- those evil forces that have created "government by organized money" that "is just as dangerous as government by organized mob"?
Also note the conversion from "Sagebrush Rebellion" to conservationists. Senators Cory Gardner (Colorado) and Steve Daines (Montana), who have led the way in selling off public lands and opening them for drilling and mining, and are up for re-election this year and co-sponsored legislation that, among other things, funds the National Parks.
Incidentally, when did the po-faced sycophant Pence grow a pair?
Can't be far off getting fired for the mask statement
Nice to think that Replicans may have found ability to desert Trump treachery
Taken a little while to start!
Wonder when these zombies might join humanity?
Not holding breath
Thom, you forgot to mention that they are also beholden to wealth. They do whatever is convenient for their funding masters. Given that these are descendants of slave owning wealthy, their tactics and mentality are exactly what is needed to rob wealth and feed it into the never closing mouth of the 1%. Their motive has never been the welfare of the nation but the looting of it.
If whatabout is now commandeering the moniker "whatajoke" he still doesn't have a legitimate complaint, as I was attacking what was said, which is fair game, not a specific person who might have said it. And why does he think that what was said was referring to what he said in particular? Guilt by association? Any MAGAT is the butt of the joke.
Again, an opinion that is not sourced is by definition a worthless opinion ...in my opinion.
And in my opinion, flaming liars and those who spread the lies are as bad as flaming racists when their lies and hate cause people to die. Trump's lies, and those promulgated by his blind followers, have now led to almost 130,000 dead Americans, not just the hidden deaths of American soldiers in Afganistan. MAGATs are disgusting liars and deserve all the ridicule and scorn that can be heaped upon them. They are tearing this country apart.
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Here's how Thom handled a flaming racist (6-24-2020; hour 2; min 24:07):
caller: I want segregation. I don't want black peoples in our schools. Um, they...
Thom: Yeah, Markus, that is, you know, ah... You're a fool, an ass, a disgrace! As an American, you are spitting, Markus, in the face of people who have fought and died for this country for hundreds of years, or at least the ideals that they expressed or said that they embraced, even if they did it imperfectly or even badly or even not at all.
That kind of rhetoric, Markus, is what people who hate America say. That kind of rhetoric is the stuff that you hear out of the white supremacists' fever swamps in Poland and Hungary. That kind of rhetoric is poison. That kind of rhetoric is the stuff that gets people killed -- and is getting people killed right now! We've had a number of white supremacists expressing the opinions that you just said, Markus, kill people in the United States.
Markus, you're disgusting!
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Lying MAGATs are disgusting. So are sniveling cowards and tattletales who can't defend what they say.
Moderator, one of our "guests" cannot contain themselves and is at it again.
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As usual, whatajoke has absolutely nothing to back up, by definition, a worthless opinion. "Make America Great Again Trumpee" (MAGAT)
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I believe you said personal attacks are forbidden. I assume you will follow through with your previous warning to the offender.
Thank you.
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SueN • 2 weeks 4 days ago#5
No, it's not OK.
Please keep it civil, everyone. If not, you will be booted. You have been warned!
Gullible Republicans who believe what Trump says are goddamn fools following a goddamn fool. Their Great White Savior has lied to them over 19,000 times in 1,226 days. "Trump's mountain of lies is unprecedented. It must not become precedent." -- St. Louis Post-Dispatch. "Trump Is Lying More Than Ever: Just Look At The Data" -- David Markowitz
Lying is the air they breathe. And liars on that scale will always go to great lengths to hide the truth from as many people as possible. That is the one-line description of the Trump fake presidency that history will remember the most.
Politics, in general, have become nothing but personal agendas
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As usual, whatajoke has absolutely nothing to back up, by definition, a worthless opinion. "Make America Great Again Trumpee" (MAGAT)
Whatabutt, A pessimist is an optimist with experience.
Think about it this way. A disgruntled federal employee doesn't get to start up a new hot war with Russia. Goes to the NYTs to get them to run a hit piece that bemoans that the US didn't instantly pull the trigger and start a war with Russia, and here you are crying about it. No new war with Russia. That's bad. Nancy got on the steps of the congress to cry about it even. Democrats need a distraction again. We get it.
Your fake distress here is both obvious, and apparent. So when you roil around in the slop flinging arrows at others in the hope that you can wound or damage a president that frankly, you have zero knowledge of either what or when a response was created. And in the absence of that knowledge, you'd sling arrows anyway. You have no idea if Trump either did or did not "punish" Russia. You cannot and will not take up arms yourself, so your emotional response here is both feckless and amusing. Simple thing here. You put full faith in a story that likely cannot ever be verified. Doesn't that seem to be a huge waste of both your energy and time? If it turns out that Russia did do this, I'm all for a limited military response. I don't doubt that the president wouldn't also given his historic responses. So other than you flailing about here, what again do you really want? Oh, yeah... nothing.
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POMPEO-that's the part missing from this equation! Is he still laying low playing CYA over his last debacle?
Jesus, Mary, and Joseph with Trump, Barr & Pompeo and their evil screw-ups you could get whip-lash!
Not to insult the 3 Stooges, but......
Trump the retarded manboy psychopath couldn't care less that 128,000 Americans have died of COVID other than how it affects his re-election. So why the hell would he fret over a few U.S. troops in faraway Afghanistan murdered by his beloved Putin, who is helping him get elected, as always, by spreading disinformation on social media, sowing chaos, and God knows what else, as Robert Mueller warned during his testimony?
The only thing shocking about this story is that anyone would be shocked. It all seems pretty normal, soon to be replaced by the next "shocking" story.