By SueN
- Guests:
- Rep. Steve King (R-IA).
- Rep. Brian Baird (D-WA), chairman of the Energy and Environment Subcommittee of the Committee on Science and Technology.
- Carrie Lukas of the Independent Women's Forum.
- Donna Rice Hughes, President and Chairman, Enough is Enough.
- Aden Fine, ACLU Project on Speech, Privacy and Technology.
- Don Rojas, Executive Director of Free Speech TV
- Topics:
- If we deport 1 liberal for every illegal alien...how many conservatives can we deport for each barrel of oil spilled in the Gulf?
- General McChrystal Called to Washington. Afghanistan.
- Is it true what Fox News says that the Gulf efforts are failing because of bureaucracy?
- When did we stop letting moms be moms?
- Should gonzo porn be regulated by the Feds?
- The US Social Forum in Detroit.
- Freespeech TV will be on DirectTV channel 348 from tomorrow.
- Bumper Music:
- Illegal Alien, Genesis.
- Home, Chris Daughtry.
- Ghost Chickens in the Sky, Sean Morey.
- Smooth Talk, Delbert McClinton.
- Mr. Mom, Lonestar.
- We Are Family, Sister Sledge.
- Rich Girl, Gwen Stefani.
- You can leave your hat on, Joe Cocker.
- Democracy, Leonard Cohen.
- Today's newsletter has details of today's guests and links to the major stories and alerts that Thom covered in the show, plus lots more. If you haven't signed up for the free newsletter yet, please do. If you missed today's newsletter, it is in the archive.
- Quote: "Struggle is a never ending process. Freedom is never really won you earn it and win it in every generation." -- Coretta Scott King.
- Clip:
LBJ: "I shudder at getting too deeply involved there and everybody thinks that's the only alternative."
Adlai Stevenson: "Well, I've been shuddering on this thing for three years, and I'm afraid we're in a position now where you don't have any alternative, and it's a hell of an alternative and it fairly gives me the shakes and that, I don't know, he was going to give me all the up-to-date plans.
May 27, 1964. - Clip:
Johnson: I will tell you the more, I just stayed awake last night thinking of this thing, and the more that I think of it I don't know what in the hell, it looks like to me that we're getting into another Korea. It just worries the hell out of me. I don't see what we can ever hope to get out of there with once we're committed. I believe the Chinese Communists are coming into it. I don't think that we can fight them 10,000 miles away from home and ever get anywhere in that area. I don't think it's worth fighting for and I don't think we can get out. And it's just the biggest damn mess that I ever saw.
Bundy: It is an awful mess.
Johnson: And we just got to think about it. I'm looking at this Sergeant of mine this morning and he's got 6 little old kids over there, and he's getting out my things, and bringing me in my night reading, and all that kind of stuff, and I just thought about ordering all those kids in there. And what in the hell am I ordering them out there for? What in the hell is Vietnam worth to me? What is Laos worth to me? What is it worth to this country? We've got a treaty but hell, everybody else has got a treaty out there, and they're not doing a thing about it.
Bundy: Yeah, yeah.
Johnson: Of course, if you start running from the Communists, they may just chase you right into your own kitchen.
Bundy: Yeah, that's the trouble. And that is what the rest of that half of the world is going to think if this thing comes apart on us. That's the dilemma, that's exactly the dilemma.
Telephone Conversation Between President Johnson and the President's Special Assistant for National Security Affairs (McGeorge Bundy). Washington, May 27, 1964, 11:24 a.m.
- Clip:
Johnson: Well, think about it and I'll talk to you again. I hate to bother you, but I just-
Richard Russell: I wish I could help you. God knows I do 'cause it's a, it's a terrific quandary that we're in over there. We're just in the quicksand up to our very necks. And I just don't know what the hell is the best way to do about it.
Telephone Conversation Between President Johnson and Richard Russell. Washington, May 27, 1964. - Member of the day was shan_n, who won a copy of "Unequal Protection: How Corporations Became "People" - And How You Can Fight Back" for posting As a former resident of Fremont, NE for 18 years ... on the message board.
