A nation pregnant with revolution - as ours is today - doesn't just give up. But the real question is...what KIND of revolution does the nation want? What's the real change people are looking for? Since President Obama took office - two revolutionary groups - or ideologies - have sprung up - The Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street. And while on the surface - they may seem like they want to bring about two completely different revolutions - a closer look reveals there is a common thread. A chart on Democratic Underground today that breaks it all down.

Susan Herman, ACLU joins Thom Hartmann. Today is the tenth anniversary of President George W. Bush signing into law the PATRIOT Act. So...Happy Birthday to expanded wiretaps - library book snoops - x-ray porno scanners - no-fly lists - terrorist watch lists - the Department of Homeland Security - and everything else that's come out of that massive give-away to the security-state-complex since the PATRIOT Act became law. There's no question about it - our nation is radically different today as a result of the PATRIOT Act than it was just ten years ago. But is it safer?

Katrina vanden Heuvel, The Nation Magazine & Jay Harris, "We the People" campaign. And one of the biggest ideas coming out of the Occupy Movement deals with corporate personhood. General Assembly meetings across the nation have put ending corporate peronhood at the top of their list of demands. For example, the Occupy Minneapolis movement's General Assembly agreed by absolute concensus on October 22nd that, "Resolved. That the General Assembly of OccupyMN orders that Congress introduce an amendment to the United States Constitution to end corporate personhood, effectively stating that "corporations are not people and money is not speech." Why corporate personhood? Also approved by concensus was this statement, " It is the opinion of the proposal presenter that of all issues important to OccupyMN this is the most important because corporate influence on government hinders all other progress we hope to make." So why has this very clear proposal caught on like a wildifre among the Occupy movement - what are the consequences of corporate personhood - and how exactly do we do away with it?

Thom gets the latest developments of the chaos surrounding the Occupy Oakland movements and the status of the Washington, DC demonstrations. Later in the Daily Take, Thom paints a picture of the world without Fox News network.